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But there is also "Beglium - 359 deaths / million" which had early lockdowns. They started their lockdown one day before Denmark. By cherry picking countries on
by jeltz 7y ago
But there is also "Beglium - 359 deaths / million" which had early lockdowns. They started their lockdown one day before Denmark. By cherry picking countries one can chose a story to tell. I think it is too early to say if Sweden's strategy was stupid or not.
- chewz 7y agoI guess Denmark and Norway as both Nordic countries with similiar wealth and culture are as similar to Sweden as possible.
- PunchTornado 7y agoone can argue that Sweden has a larger immigrant population than those countries. Majority of deaths in Sweden are from immigrant populations. They are blamed for not following the social distancing rules that most Swedens follow day to day. Also they are poorer, live in larger families in small houses etc. and it is harder for them to follow the rules.
- CydeWeys 7y agoOne can also argue that the virus doesn't care about your ethnicity, and just because it's hit some particular community hard first doesn't mean it's not going to spread through the rest of your society too absent serious measures being taken. In the US, focusing on the "others" who had the virus, in our case the Chinese, while not taking effective measures early enough to stop the disease, was a huge mistake. It was a distraction, an excuse for racism and not doing more. This is not just a disease of poor immigrants. It's coming for everyone.
- malandrew 7y agohttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/us/coronavirus-race.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/us/coronavirus-race.html
- CydeWeys 7y agoThat doesn't remotely change the fact that non-black people are still dying in droves, and you can't attempt to minimize this pandemic as saying "Well it's mostly black people dying, so if you're not black don't worry", which is the analogy to the post about the poor foreign immigrants dying from it in greater numbers in Sweden. Don't just drop a link, let's hear your real argument here.
- malandrew 7y agoI'm not making an argument. I'm just providing a reference to counter the claim made. I have no dog in this fight other than I like to see references and evidence. Hence why I only dropped a link. You don't need to pick fights with everyone, you know?
- iso1631 7y agoHow much of that is related to a higher percentage of black people doing more dangerous jobs (one with increased contact with the public) Of the three people they mention in the article, two take buses. There's not even an attempt to control. Are black judges living in Westchester statistically more likely than white judges living in Westchester to suffer more from the disease?
- Lewton 7y agoBelgiums population density is much much higher
- roel_v 7y agoBelgium counts deaths not in hospitals much more accurately. Really, looking at worldometer numbers and comparing between countries makes no sense whatsoever, yet everyone (including media) does it anyway.
- willis936 7y agoKnow what else Belgium has? A flattened growth rate. Sweden’s on alone a bad track.
- dx034 7y agoBelgium has people concentrated in a few centers, is a travel hub in the middle of Europe and has a high density of EU employees. With that they imported cases from pretty much everywhere at an early stage.