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Assuming Responsibility for Time

39 points by panic 6y ago

contingencies 6y ago
What a weird publication. I wonder if, in vacuous echo of the article's abortive thesis, the commenting 'subscribers' are also ghost-written sock-puppets? But in a spirit of contribution to quotes on time, I like to contrast the Buddhist perspective with Alan's. Living in the present: man, you're just out of it. - Alan Kay (2017) ... via https://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup https://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup
- enthdegree 6y ago
  I'm upset I read halfway through before realizing the piece had no real insight to give. What a waste of time.
skybrian 6y ago
Possibly relevant: http://kiriakakis.net/comics/mused/a-day-at-the-park http://kiriakakis.net/comics/mused/a-day-at-the-park It seems like prediction and forecasting might be useful for finding things that are uncertain, and that's where you might make a difference. The tendency to immediately dismiss interesting questions with bogus answers seems fatalistic?
carrolldunham 6y ago
>I suggest one mode of accepting responsibility for time and resisting the lure of both “Progress” and prediction is promise. This confused phrasing frustrated me too much to go on.
samizdis 6y ago
I read the comments posted earlier, but read the article anyway. I appreciate HN comments all the more now, and won't do it again. This is hindsight speaking, by the way.
jadbox 6y ago
I'd recommend pairing this article with this video with Timothy Snyder on Politics of Eternity, Politics of Inevitability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eghl19elKk8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eghl19elKk8
emmelaich 6y ago
I always wondered where the image for William Gibson's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gernsback_Continuum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gernsback_Continuum came from. And now I know -- the Horizons ride at EPCOT! In fact the this article seems to have similar themes to that short story .. but not really sure ;-)
excalibur 6y ago
> “The promise,” Lemm continued, “exercises control over the future by means of drawing the future ever further into the past. In so doing, the promise reverses the flow of time. Thus, instead of being born into an uncertain future, one is born into a secured past.” Secured by chains of your ancestors' debt.

39 points by panic 6y ago

What a weird publication. I wonder if, in vacuous echo of the article's abortive thesis, the commenting 'subscribers' are also ghost-written sock-puppets? But in a spirit of contribution to quotes on time, I like to contrast the Buddhist perspective with Alan's. Living in the present: man, you're just out of it. - Alan Kay (2017) ... via https://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup https://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup

enthdegree 6y ago
I'm upset I read halfway through before realizing the piece had no real insight to give. What a waste of time.

skybrian 6y ago

Possibly relevant: http://kiriakakis.net/comics/mused/a-day-at-the-park http://kiriakakis.net/comics/mused/a-day-at-the-park It seems like prediction and forecasting might be useful for finding things that are uncertain, and that's where you might make a difference. The tendency to immediately dismiss interesting questions with bogus answers seems fatalistic?

carrolldunham 6y ago

>I suggest one mode of accepting responsibility for time and resisting the lure of both “Progress” and prediction is promise. This confused phrasing frustrated me too much to go on.

samizdis 6y ago

I read the comments posted earlier, but read the article anyway. I appreciate HN comments all the more now, and won't do it again. This is hindsight speaking, by the way.

jadbox 6y ago

I'd recommend pairing this article with this video with Timothy Snyder on Politics of Eternity, Politics of Inevitability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eghl19elKk8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eghl19elKk8

emmelaich 6y ago

I always wondered where the image for William Gibson's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gernsback_Continuum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gernsback_Continuum came from. And now I know -- the Horizons ride at EPCOT! In fact the this article seems to have similar themes to that short story .. but not really sure ;-)

excalibur 6y ago

> “The promise,” Lemm continued, “exercises control over the future by means of drawing the future ever further into the past. In so doing, the promise reverses the flow of time. Thus, instead of being born into an uncertain future, one is born into a secured past.” Secured by chains of your ancestors' debt.