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This seems like comment from early 2000s. I don't remember last time I head problems with BT or sound, and I went through dozen of installations in last 3 years

This seems like comment from early 2000s. I don't remember last time I head problems with BT or sound, and I went through dozen of installations in last 3 years (for me and others). I had to give up on Nvidia drivers but Intel graphics serves me great.

chx 7y ago
Bluetooth broke on me: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=204875 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=204875 2015 November https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=206032 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=206032 2015 December https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=210685 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=210685 2016 March. And these were times when I needed community help, most of the time I could get it working by pairing again or some such nonsense. It never worked reliably, in general. Note I switched to Windows as my daily driver in 2018 January. It seems sound is still a gigantic mess of PulseAudio and ALSA https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio
- dman 7y ago
  If you things to just keep on working Arch might not be the distro for you. Have you tried something like ubuntu?
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    Canonical broke wlan and OpenGL for many of us when they decided to replace fully working closed source drivers, with work in progress open source replacements. So even Ubuntu isn't necessarily a guarantee of stability.
    - dman 7y ago
      Sigh - I hear you.
  - chx 7y ago
    Yes. Yes, I did. At least with Arch I could keep on working because only one of BT / printer / scanner broke on update, most of the production bits kept working. When I ran Ubuntu the system shattered every six months so badly I couldn't work for 2-3 days.
- tsar9x 7y ago
  I have fairly linux friendly laptop (Thinkpad T480) with Fedora, and GPU driver was broken for whole 5.3 kernel tree...
  - heeen 7y ago
    I have a T480 as well and both the nvidia (closed source) and intel drivers work for me on Kubuntu.
- ubercow13 7y ago
  Most of that wiki page isn't important, Pulse largely just works these days without much or any configuration
nsomaru 7y ago
Been running some flavour of Debian for > 10 years. Now on my dell XPS 13 9350. Upgraded to Debian 10, a kernel regression broke the brcfmac driver for my Broadcom wireless. Now I need to disable power saving on the WiFi card. Still, sometimes the WiFi card just dies. Sometimes reloading the kernel module works, sometimes only a hard reset will do. Bluetooth has never worked.
- willtim 7y ago
  Broadcom unfortunately has never been well supported on Linux. I've always used ThinkPads for running Linux and have never had these sorts of hardware issues (and I keep laptops for at least 8 years). You need to buy a machine with running Linux in mind (or more specifically, Debian, which has even less out-of-the-box hardware support for laptops).
  - nsomaru 7y ago
    You’re right. A new WiFi card is cheap, apparently. Just not available anywhere near where I am :/

chx 7y ago

Bluetooth broke on me: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=204875 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=204875 2015 November https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=206032 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=206032 2015 December https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=210685 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=210685 2016 March. And these were times when I needed community help, most of the time I could get it working by pairing again or some such nonsense. It never worked reliably, in general. Note I switched to Windows as my daily driver in 2018 January. It seems sound is still a gigantic mess of PulseAudio and ALSA https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio

dman 7y ago
If you things to just keep on working Arch might not be the distro for you. Have you tried something like ubuntu?
- pjmlp 7y ago
  Canonical broke wlan and OpenGL for many of us when they decided to replace fully working closed source drivers, with work in progress open source replacements. So even Ubuntu isn't necessarily a guarantee of stability.
  - dman 7y ago
    Sigh - I hear you.
- chx 7y ago
  Yes. Yes, I did. At least with Arch I could keep on working because only one of BT / printer / scanner broke on update, most of the production bits kept working. When I ran Ubuntu the system shattered every six months so badly I couldn't work for 2-3 days.
tsar9x 7y ago
I have fairly linux friendly laptop (Thinkpad T480) with Fedora, and GPU driver was broken for whole 5.3 kernel tree...
- heeen 7y ago
  I have a T480 as well and both the nvidia (closed source) and intel drivers work for me on Kubuntu.
ubercow13 7y ago
Most of that wiki page isn't important, Pulse largely just works these days without much or any configuration

nsomaru 7y ago

Been running some flavour of Debian for > 10 years. Now on my dell XPS 13 9350. Upgraded to Debian 10, a kernel regression broke the brcfmac driver for my Broadcom wireless. Now I need to disable power saving on the WiFi card. Still, sometimes the WiFi card just dies. Sometimes reloading the kernel module works, sometimes only a hard reset will do. Bluetooth has never worked.

willtim 7y ago
Broadcom unfortunately has never been well supported on Linux. I've always used ThinkPads for running Linux and have never had these sorts of hardware issues (and I keep laptops for at least 8 years). You need to buy a machine with running Linux in mind (or more specifically, Debian, which has even less out-of-the-box hardware support for laptops).
- nsomaru 7y ago
  You’re right. A new WiFi card is cheap, apparently. Just not available anywhere near where I am :/