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By "their recommandations", you are alluding to when they said that travel bans on China where ineffective (that's true, only complete border closure is effecti

By "their recommandations", you are alluding to when they said that travel bans on China where ineffective (that's true, only complete border closure is effective), and to when they said there was no proof of human-human transmission (that was true when they said it, nobody knew yet, except some Chinese scientists prevented from speaking by their government). I see a lot of these deformed affirmations...

AlchemistCamp 7y ago
Taiwan warned the WHO about human to human transmission on December 31st: https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3904054 https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3904054
- henearkr 7y ago
  I searched for the sources, and all that I found is that Taiwan asked WHO more investigation and verification of China's affirmation. Taiwan did not add any study results or scientific knowledge, so had nothing to really "warn" about. The China "results" were actually biased, so Taiwan was right to ask verification, but that's only retrospectively. At the time, there was no such certainty of their wrongdoing, especially given that they also collaborated by other means.
  - AlchemistCamp 7y ago
    > The China "results" were actually biased, so Taiwan was right to ask verification, but that's only retrospectively. At the time, there was no such certainty of their wrongdoing, especially given that they also collaborated by other means. The reason you didn't find much is that the WHO refused to pass on Taiwan's warning. Taiwanese doctors had direct emails from multiple colleagues in Wuhan, some of whom were punished by the local government for speaking. Doctors getting sick with the virus was direct evidence of human to human transmission. Keep in mind that China also covered up and denied the existence of SARS for months. The WHO's decision to aid in suppressing the information of the epidemic has cost the entire globe countless lives and economic damage. What is it that so motivates you to defend them that you comment 20 times in this thread? FWIW, I've followed the news this time and during SARS from the start, from local media in Taiwan and been deeply disappointed with the WHO and early international reporting both times.
    - henearkr 7y ago
      Locked-down... heh... ^^ Also, I like supra-national bodies. They warrant that the non-zero sum game that is our planet and societies still live on... PS: did Taiwan try to pass the warning directly? They could have published through other ways, Twitter being only one among numerous examples. This is a sincere question, not a trap.
      - AlchemistCamp 7y ago
        Yes. It was in national media and the TW CDC has a Twitter account that was tweeting about it repeatedly for weeks while the WHO was still downplaying it.

AlchemistCamp 7y ago

Taiwan warned the WHO about human to human transmission on December 31st: https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3904054 https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3904054

henearkr 7y ago
I searched for the sources, and all that I found is that Taiwan asked WHO more investigation and verification of China's affirmation. Taiwan did not add any study results or scientific knowledge, so had nothing to really "warn" about. The China "results" were actually biased, so Taiwan was right to ask verification, but that's only retrospectively. At the time, there was no such certainty of their wrongdoing, especially given that they also collaborated by other means.
- AlchemistCamp 7y ago
  > The China "results" were actually biased, so Taiwan was right to ask verification, but that's only retrospectively. At the time, there was no such certainty of their wrongdoing, especially given that they also collaborated by other means. The reason you didn't find much is that the WHO refused to pass on Taiwan's warning. Taiwanese doctors had direct emails from multiple colleagues in Wuhan, some of whom were punished by the local government for speaking. Doctors getting sick with the virus was direct evidence of human to human transmission. Keep in mind that China also covered up and denied the existence of SARS for months. The WHO's decision to aid in suppressing the information of the epidemic has cost the entire globe countless lives and economic damage. What is it that so motivates you to defend them that you comment 20 times in this thread? FWIW, I've followed the news this time and during SARS from the start, from local media in Taiwan and been deeply disappointed with the WHO and early international reporting both times.
  - henearkr 7y ago
    Locked-down... heh... ^^ Also, I like supra-national bodies. They warrant that the non-zero sum game that is our planet and societies still live on... PS: did Taiwan try to pass the warning directly? They could have published through other ways, Twitter being only one among numerous examples. This is a sincere question, not a trap.
    - AlchemistCamp 7y ago
      Yes. It was in national media and the TW CDC has a Twitter account that was tweeting about it repeatedly for weeks while the WHO was still downplaying it.