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A source for what you are saying is the linked SF article [1] which indicates that of ~3k evidently sick people with flu symptoms, 0.1-1% were confirmed to have
by riazrizvi 7y ago
A source for what you are saying is the linked SF article [1] which indicates that of ~3k evidently sick people with flu symptoms, 0.1-1% were confirmed to have COVID-19. Though note this is not random population sampling, on an interesting scale, so ignores asymptomatic question. Worldwide analysis of death rates [2], indicates #infected-so-far = 700-1600 x #dead so far. And data from Iceland [3], the only country with widespread sampling of asymptomatic population, is aligned with these numbers. Based on the analysis and support from Iceland, Covid-19 testing to see if patients actively have the disease are likely inaccurate and also a policy of only permitting testing of severe symptom patients is depressing reported numbers of once infected.
[1] https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/article/Think-you-got-the-coronavirus-last-winter-stanford-15193019.php https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/article/Think-you-got-the...
[2] Analysis of #infected today from #dead today, using following assumptions:
1. death statistics are reliable, since cause of death tests can adequately collect fluid samples (a major source of inaccuracy in COVID-19 testing), source = talking to medical staff at Bay Area sites.
2. E[days between first infection and death] = 14 (lost the source at the moment),
Therefore, number of dead today D => number of infected 14 days ago = 100 D
3. rate of death increase consistently trends around 25%/day or 15% with full lockdown, source CDC situation reports worldwide excluding regions with restricted access to journalists
4. therefore, #infected today = #infected 14 days ago growing at 25% daily = 22X, or 7X if your region was locked down for last 2 weeks
5. so #infected=2200D or 700D
[3] Last week, CDC reported 2 deaths today for Iceland, and admittedly-non-random sampling by DeCode indicated upto 1% of population have/had virus, upto 3600. Iceland has done strict quarantining of confirmed and suspected cases, and extensive testing since February, so despite no lockdown, I would put them at the 700X end of the estimate. They report ~1000 confirmed cases, so they would actually estimate 3600-1000 infected so far. My estimate would have indicated 2200-700 X D (= today's deaths, 2) = 4400 to 1400 cases.
- enjo 7y agoSan Miguel county in Colorado has found 0.5% of their population has confirmed antibodies after doing 1600+ tests (out of 8,000 people in the county). As another data point, the theory of this thing being widespread in the population seems far fetched to me.
- arcticbull 7y agoWell, Gangelt showed 15% had antibodies (subject to, potentially fair criticisms re: methodology) so I think it's fair to say it varies by locale. While I understand that many folks from Wuhan travel all over the United States, the non-stop options from Wuhan to NYC and, if I recall correctly, SFO and LAX meant that more opportunities existed for early spread than the middle of Colorado. In fact, I can't actually pinpoint a city in San Miguel County, Colorado -- can you? (https://goo.gl/maps/F7CJ3yfDKaf1gQjDA https://goo.gl/maps/F7CJ3yfDKaf1gQjDA) I guess there's a post office in Egnar... Telluride maybe? Certainly the sparse population created natural social distancing precluding its spread.
- aodin 7y agoSan Miguel County is home to Telluride ski resort, an international destination with about half a million visits per year [1] [1] https://www.telluridenews.com/news/article_1547199f-46bc-5479-bb67-2b2818ee2d08.html https://www.telluridenews.com/news/article_1547199f-46bc-547...
- arcticbull 7y agoTrue, population 2484.
- aianus 7y agoThe strain that is widespread in New York is the European strain: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/science/new-york-coronavirus-cases-europe-genomes.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/science/new-york-coronavi...
- arcticbull 7y agoVery cool! I wonder if that's true in the Bay Area too.
- Gibbon1 7y agoI like how a factual point that goes against HN wishful thinking gets downvoted.