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While Amazon tried to go into the private hosting and ci/cd market, they are not a dev tool company. Microsoft was born as one. When Amazon or Google would buy
by oaiey 7y ago
While Amazon tried to go into the private hosting and ci/cd market, they are not a dev tool company. Microsoft was born as one. When Amazon or Google would buy GitLab they would meaningless integrate it, reduce staff by half and then ruin it over time.
Maybe when Microsoft would have opened up some years earlier, Codeplex would not share the fate of Google Cloud.
- sdesol 7y ago> While Amazon tried to go into the private hosting and ci/cd market, they are not a dev tool company When did Amazon give up?
- oaiey 7y agoOh sorry, I guess they did not. But their offerings are not really compelling outside AWS deployment.
- momokoko 7y agoThe marketing team from Microsoft here on HN is amazing. The work you all have been putting in for the last year+ is amazing. It all started with VS Code and has since fanned out into a massive influence. I'd be super curious to see the metrics on ROI with the HN presence.
- foota 7y agoAre you trying to imply the person above is a microsoft marketing person or something?
- oaiey 7y agoFYI, I am not a member of Microsoft. Just a fanboy. Do not know what is worse ;) But I agree with the statement. The presence of Product Managers, Senior Devs and high ranking managers here on HN is pretty well orchestrated. I mean makes sense.
- dang 7y agoIt breaks the site guidelines to post accusations of astroturfing like this. The overwhelming majority of the time, there isn't the slightest evidence for these. Somebody liking something that you dislike does not count as evidence. I've studied the question closely on HN and looked at data for years. There have been occasional cases where we've banned accounts for the kind of thing you're complaining about, but we have to go by evidence. Well over 99.9% of the time, users are just making shit up. Please don't trash talk like that here. If you want more explanation, see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on. If you're genuinely worried about astroturfing, you're welcome to email links to hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look into it.
- momokoko 7y agoHi Dan, my apologies for that. I wasn't trying to specifically single out that account. I've seen a strong push for MS products since VS Code, and it is impossible to be an accident. My post was made out of curiosity as opposed to malice. It was not intended as a passive-aggressive accusation, but I understand the rule there. I appreciate the guidance.
- dang 7y agoAppreciated! I'd be super careful about thoughts like this: > and it is impossible to be an accident Internet users are overwhelmingly, like a million times too likely to generate sinister explanations for phenomena like this, which are typically just artifacts of a large population size plus randomness. There's something in how human nature meets the internet which makes us vulnerable to this bias. Probably it's just that we're not wired to interact with very large populations of people. Cognitive bias plus randomness equals narrative. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20divisive%20opposi&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20notice%20dislike&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...