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I guess it's time to unplug from these spyware devices...this has gone a bit too far!

jjeaff 7y ago
Why not unplug from the devices -after- we have made it possible to go out in public without spreading a pandemic virus? Tracking information like this could allow us to manage the spread well enough to get back to a somewhat normal day of life. I realize the arguments about this stuff never going away once the genie is out of the bottle. Public pressure will cause it to go away after the danger is over. But if it doesn't, then you can stop using your phone.
- hotShoeHorn 7y ago
  Nah, let's unplug them right now, throw them in the trash, and never buy any such device ever again. It's plainly obvious what's going on by now. I certainly didn't fork over $999 so that this uniquely identifiable billing and accounting radio tag could be used calculate a multi-year, comprehensive geolocation log of 3D/XYZ coordinates (precision within ~100 centimeters) and accelerometer sensor values, that only large corporations, organizations, institutions and services can share amongst one another, but I cannot see for myself. I'd rather spend $999 on SDR antennas and mess around with open-source spectrum analysis software, and join the eavesdropping party, and surveil all the tagged animals within range.
NobodyNada 7y ago
> The information is generated by counting the number of requests made to Apple Maps for directions. This is far less invasive than, for example, their analytics for detecting traffic (which is quite well anonymized). They’re not tracking your location or movement, just counting how many requests have been made to their servers’ directions endpoint. As far as “spyware” goes...this is pretty innocuous.
olliej 7y ago
What? There no individually identifiable data going to Apple, and the data being vended is aggregated so authorities Or whomever can’t track individual devices moving.

Why not unplug from the devices -after- we have made it possible to go out in public without spreading a pandemic virus? Tracking information like this could allow us to manage the spread well enough to get back to a somewhat normal day of life. I realize the arguments about this stuff never going away once the genie is out of the bottle. Public pressure will cause it to go away after the danger is over. But if it doesn't, then you can stop using your phone.

hotShoeHorn 7y ago
Nah, let's unplug them right now, throw them in the trash, and never buy any such device ever again. It's plainly obvious what's going on by now. I certainly didn't fork over $999 so that this uniquely identifiable billing and accounting radio tag could be used calculate a multi-year, comprehensive geolocation log of 3D/XYZ coordinates (precision within ~100 centimeters) and accelerometer sensor values, that only large corporations, organizations, institutions and services can share amongst one another, but I cannot see for myself. I'd rather spend $999 on SDR antennas and mess around with open-source spectrum analysis software, and join the eavesdropping party, and surveil all the tagged animals within range.

NobodyNada 7y ago

> The information is generated by counting the number of requests made to Apple Maps for directions. This is far less invasive than, for example, their analytics for detecting traffic (which is quite well anonymized). They’re not tracking your location or movement, just counting how many requests have been made to their servers’ directions endpoint. As far as “spyware” goes...this is pretty innocuous.

olliej 7y ago

What? There no individually identifiable data going to Apple, and the data being vended is aggregated so authorities Or whomever can’t track individual devices moving.