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You just wrote out this long, politically charged comment basically asserting your opinion as fact, which appears to boil down to "socialism bad". Don't you th

You just wrote out this long, politically charged comment basically asserting your opinion as fact, which appears to boil down to "socialism bad". Don't you think most people here have made up their minds on that issue and are tired of watching endless fights about it? We aren't on slashdot. Also, this: > the only way that humans have ever lifted themselves out of poverty is through productive labour and innovation ...is utterly false. Maybe somewhat true in the general case (although less and less so even there in more recent history), but not at all for individuals. People and governments have helped other people and governments many times without asking for anything back.

sparkie 7y ago
> You just wrote out this long, politically charged comment basically asserting your opinion as fact, which appears to boil down to "socialism bad". Well yes. Theft is bad, and socialism is theft. > Don't you think most people here have made up their minds on that issue and are tired of watching endless fights about it? We aren't on slashdot. I'm well aware of how far left most of HN leans. Sometimes I wonder if this place is an internal discussion forum for the CCP (There are certain moderators who bark when anything critical of China gets posted here). I have a posting limit of 5 posts every few hours because my views are "the wrong views." > ...is utterly false. Maybe somewhat true in the general case (although less and less so even there in more recent history), but not at all for individuals. People and governments have helped other people and governments many times without asking for anything back. I was referring to the general case. Ultimately, somebody must perform labour or somebody must perform invention for the standard of living of themselves or others to improve. The work won't do itself. The question is one of whether you are implicitly entitled to the results of other people's work and invention, which I refer to as theft, versus instead receiving charity out of other people's good nature. The capitalist is often described as "evil," yet many engage in voluntary charity, and the socialist deludes himself to be the moral arbiter of good, when in fact, he simply thinks stealing the fruits of others labour is the solution to problems.

sparkie 7y ago

> You just wrote out this long, politically charged comment basically asserting your opinion as fact, which appears to boil down to "socialism bad". Well yes. Theft is bad, and socialism is theft. > Don't you think most people here have made up their minds on that issue and are tired of watching endless fights about it? We aren't on slashdot. I'm well aware of how far left most of HN leans. Sometimes I wonder if this place is an internal discussion forum for the CCP (There are certain moderators who bark when anything critical of China gets posted here). I have a posting limit of 5 posts every few hours because my views are "the wrong views." > ...is utterly false. Maybe somewhat true in the general case (although less and less so even there in more recent history), but not at all for individuals. People and governments have helped other people and governments many times without asking for anything back. I was referring to the general case. Ultimately, somebody must perform labour or somebody must perform invention for the standard of living of themselves or others to improve. The work won't do itself. The question is one of whether you are implicitly entitled to the results of other people's work and invention, which I refer to as theft, versus instead receiving charity out of other people's good nature. The capitalist is often described as "evil," yet many engage in voluntary charity, and the socialist deludes himself to be the moral arbiter of good, when in fact, he simply thinks stealing the fruits of others labour is the solution to problems.