"... other people will notice how good they are, and actively try to get them into appropriate jobs. ..." Do you mean, "other people who work with them" or "ot

"... other people will notice how good they are, and actively try to get them into appropriate jobs. ..." Do you mean, "other people who work with them" or "other people who notice them"? I ask this because how do you tell if someone is a great hacker unless you work with them?