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The last time we had secession, we had civil war.

• spankalee 7y ago
  If any states try to secede in order to keep people as slaves, I would support another civil way to prevent it.
  • jMyles 7y ago
    I don't want to get into a big thing, but I take issue with the idea that this was the motivation for support (in the Union government) for the war. We remember Lincoln as an emancipator, but his words and actions don't support that. He was an advocate of institutional racism and drove away the people who actually wanted to end slavery, whether in peace or by war. He spent much more time discussing and devising his plan to deport and colonize all black people than he ever did working to end slavery. I believe that our country missed a great opportunity to take an actual abolitionist position, which was being articulately and powerfully communicated by plenty of leaders who worked in better faith than the government ultimately did. I also believe that this missed opportunity is a substantial part of the reason that we still endure slavery today under the guise of a criminal justice system.
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• jMyles 7y ago
  The conditions were different in almost every way. True, we have another egomaniacal, racist, populist President who pretends to understand economics and business. Hopefully history will remember Trump more accurately than Lincoln. But very little else is similar in these scenarios. Perhaps most importantly, we have the internet now, so the very need for a central government in our daily lives is substantially decreased. And even if the conditions were similar, it's a sufficiently complex situation that merely noting the similarity isn't enough to suppose that war is likely (let alone inevitable) in such a scenario.
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