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That seems fair, unless you want to pay more. Why should someone be subsidizing your housing choice?

Loughla 7y ago
I guess the same can be said for roads, water, electricity, and any other utility. And it also points out that the one thing that is for-profit is completely unavailable in any modern form out here - internet and phone. Our options for internet are dial-up (35/mo, no download/upload cap as if that matters) or satellite (75/mo, 15gb up/down cap monthly). Phone has copper home phone options at 60/mo. Cell doesn't work. Not everyone can live in cities, is my only argument for you. My work, and the work of those I serve, relies on my existing in a rural area. Food comes from somewhere. I know it sounds hand wavy and dismissive, but that's the truth for me, and my area. Without some amount of cooperation and working together, who would want to live out here where there is nothing? Then who grows the food?
- dantheman 7y ago
  That's great, so bear the actual cost of your lifestyle and let the price ripple through the system. Maybe food needs to cost a tiny bit more. Would you be for a grocery store tax that kept groceries the same price everywhere? Irregardless of shipping and land costs? It costs a lot to run internet connectivity all over the place, if the town wanted to pay to run the cables it could, or a non-profit could, there's a wide variety of solutions. My guess is that it's just not worth the cost/maintenance for the few people that need it vs the other options. Internet may need to cost 1k per month if only a few people are using it and the cables need to be run a long distance. Proper prices are the only way we can proper figure out how to allocate resources. If we stopped subsidizing remote farmland, maybe farmland near cities would be more viable.
  - Loughla 7y ago
    >That's great, so bear the actual cost of your lifestyle and let the price ripple through the system. I don't set the prices of the commodities I sell. Those are set at a national/international level and make their way to the local grain elevator. For that to happen, it would, essentially, be a tax on your food to subsidize me living here to make the food.

I guess the same can be said for roads, water, electricity, and any other utility. And it also points out that the one thing that is for-profit is completely unavailable in any modern form out here - internet and phone. Our options for internet are dial-up (35/mo, no download/upload cap as if that matters) or satellite (75/mo, 15gb up/down cap monthly). Phone has copper home phone options at 60/mo. Cell doesn't work. Not everyone can live in cities, is my only argument for you. My work, and the work of those I serve, relies on my existing in a rural area. Food comes from somewhere. I know it sounds hand wavy and dismissive, but that's the truth for me, and my area. Without some amount of cooperation and working together, who would want to live out here where there is nothing? Then who grows the food?

dantheman 7y ago
That's great, so bear the actual cost of your lifestyle and let the price ripple through the system. Maybe food needs to cost a tiny bit more. Would you be for a grocery store tax that kept groceries the same price everywhere? Irregardless of shipping and land costs? It costs a lot to run internet connectivity all over the place, if the town wanted to pay to run the cables it could, or a non-profit could, there's a wide variety of solutions. My guess is that it's just not worth the cost/maintenance for the few people that need it vs the other options. Internet may need to cost 1k per month if only a few people are using it and the cables need to be run a long distance. Proper prices are the only way we can proper figure out how to allocate resources. If we stopped subsidizing remote farmland, maybe farmland near cities would be more viable.
- Loughla 7y ago
  >That's great, so bear the actual cost of your lifestyle and let the price ripple through the system. I don't set the prices of the commodities I sell. Those are set at a national/international level and make their way to the local grain elevator. For that to happen, it would, essentially, be a tax on your food to subsidize me living here to make the food.