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Do you have anything against subscribing to the platform? (If you can afford it)

dleslie 7y ago
I pay for other platforms, even ones with free options (CBC), and so I am definitely open to it. But I distrust Google and don't want to serve them more data than is necessary.
- falcolas 7y ago
  I would be outright shocked if Google is unable correlate video viewing habits via direct downloads to a Google account. Especially since they (google, facebook, et.al) have already demonstrated the ability to strongly correlate IP traffic with an account (active or shadow).
  - rcxdude 7y ago
    Yeah, but will they bother? It's a pretty small fraction of traffic which even uses an ad blocker, let alone a completely different client.
  - dleslie 7y ago
    To stop feeding personal data to Google completely one must stop using the internet, stop using credit cards, stop filling out warranty cards, and so on. They vacuum up personal data from every possible commercialized database they can access. But I can at least refuse to use a Google account, and to serve a tracking cookie. I'd have to live off the grid and in the woods to stop feeding them any data.
    - jessedhillon 7y ago
      This really is the tiniest violin. You're commiting piracy, plain and simple, and your justification is that your (unverifiable) terms of access aren't being met.
    - sushid 7y ago
      You can also refuse to watch Youtube videos. It seems like you just want to keep your cake and eat it too.
      - dleslie 7y ago
        With NewPipe and ytdl I can. And the cake is delicious.
        sushid 7y ago
        Nothing wrong with that, plenty of people do. Just don't go around proclaiming privacy concerns and whatnot when that goes out the window as soon as you get your Youtube fix.
        dleslie 7y ago
        I have defenestrated very little.
SyneRyder 7y ago
Not sure if this has changed, but the last time I tried the YouTube Premium trial, they heavily pushed their own content (eg Scare PewDiePie) which was so completely opposite from anything I watch on YouTube, I felt I'd just replaced one ad experience with a worse one that I was paying for. I'd rather see the non-stop Masterclass ads (at least they were often relevant) than see PewDiePie everytime I log in.
- micael_dias 7y ago
  They do promote YouTube premium videos in the beginning but after a while you stop seeing it if you don't consume it. I think it took a week max for premium videos to leave my recommended content (it was a while ago I started my subscription) .
  - eropple 7y ago
    If you click the X on the YouTube Premium bar on the homepage, it goes away forever. Or at least, it did for me.

I pay for other platforms, even ones with free options (CBC), and so I am definitely open to it. But I distrust Google and don't want to serve them more data than is necessary.

falcolas 7y ago
I would be outright shocked if Google is unable correlate video viewing habits via direct downloads to a Google account. Especially since they (google, facebook, et.al) have already demonstrated the ability to strongly correlate IP traffic with an account (active or shadow).
- rcxdude 7y ago
  Yeah, but will they bother? It's a pretty small fraction of traffic which even uses an ad blocker, let alone a completely different client.
- dleslie 7y ago
  To stop feeding personal data to Google completely one must stop using the internet, stop using credit cards, stop filling out warranty cards, and so on. They vacuum up personal data from every possible commercialized database they can access. But I can at least refuse to use a Google account, and to serve a tracking cookie. I'd have to live off the grid and in the woods to stop feeding them any data.
  - jessedhillon 7y ago
    This really is the tiniest violin. You're commiting piracy, plain and simple, and your justification is that your (unverifiable) terms of access aren't being met.
  - sushid 7y ago
    You can also refuse to watch Youtube videos. It seems like you just want to keep your cake and eat it too.
    - dleslie 7y ago
      With NewPipe and ytdl I can. And the cake is delicious.
      - sushid 7y ago
        Nothing wrong with that, plenty of people do. Just don't go around proclaiming privacy concerns and whatnot when that goes out the window as soon as you get your Youtube fix.
        dleslie 7y ago
        I have defenestrated very little.

SyneRyder 7y ago

Not sure if this has changed, but the last time I tried the YouTube Premium trial, they heavily pushed their own content (eg Scare PewDiePie) which was so completely opposite from anything I watch on YouTube, I felt I'd just replaced one ad experience with a worse one that I was paying for. I'd rather see the non-stop Masterclass ads (at least they were often relevant) than see PewDiePie everytime I log in.

micael_dias 7y ago
They do promote YouTube premium videos in the beginning but after a while you stop seeing it if you don't consume it. I think it took a week max for premium videos to leave my recommended content (it was a while ago I started my subscription) .
- eropple 7y ago
  If you click the X on the YouTube Premium bar on the homepage, it goes away forever. Or at least, it did for me.