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I love the way this would be just as good an example for the original article as those actualy given.

mistermann 7y ago
To me, this demonstrates how one can completely understand something at the abstract level, but so easily "forget" when working at the object level, even when the object level discussions are related to an article about the abstract concept. The various forms of communication between humans are chock full of opportunities for error, and I doubt there's many people that would deny it, but when a conversation is occurring at the object/instance level, and an instance of one of these abstract errors occur, enthusiasm for acknowledging it generally seems to have diminished significantly. I think it would be incredibly useful if we could find a way to overcome this issue, kind of like error correction in TCP, but for human communication, or even discuss the notion. Might it be interesting and fun, and maybe even yield practically useful ideas, if now and then HN was to experiment with taking an instance of one of these abstract problems we discuss every day (this one, nuclear power, climate change, wealth disparity, political polarization, etc), and rather than having our normal casual conversations (the contents of which often appear in thread after thread), instead approach it from an engineering perspective, crowdsourcing various ideas for both the diagnosis/analysis of the problem, as well as solutions (including implementation, where possible)?
- mistermann 7y ago
  @dang -2, again. Is this not getting a little bit ridiculous? Pray tell, what guidelines have I violated this time, while everyone else is behaving perfectly fine? Shall we continue to ignore the elephant in the room? It's fine by me, I actually get a kick out of it.
  - btrask 7y ago
    "The various forms of communication between humans are chock full of opportunities for error." Don't let it get you down.
    - mistermann 7y ago
      Oh, it doesn't get me down at all, quite the opposite. It's not myself I'm worried about, it's broader mankind. Take my suggestion at the end - does it not seem odd in the slightest that one of the highest concentrations of powerful minds on the internet seems to be more interested in complaining and pointing fingers, little different than any other social media site, rather than trying something new? How bizarre do things have to get on this planet before a little curiosity starts to form about how we got where we are today, and if perhaps there's something HN could do to get us out?

To me, this demonstrates how one can completely understand something at the abstract level, but so easily "forget" when working at the object level, even when the object level discussions are related to an article about the abstract concept. The various forms of communication between humans are chock full of opportunities for error, and I doubt there's many people that would deny it, but when a conversation is occurring at the object/instance level, and an instance of one of these abstract errors occur, enthusiasm for acknowledging it generally seems to have diminished significantly. I think it would be incredibly useful if we could find a way to overcome this issue, kind of like error correction in TCP, but for human communication, or even discuss the notion. Might it be interesting and fun, and maybe even yield practically useful ideas, if now and then HN was to experiment with taking an instance of one of these abstract problems we discuss every day (this one, nuclear power, climate change, wealth disparity, political polarization, etc), and rather than having our normal casual conversations (the contents of which often appear in thread after thread), instead approach it from an engineering perspective, crowdsourcing various ideas for both the diagnosis/analysis of the problem, as well as solutions (including implementation, where possible)?

mistermann 7y ago
@dang -2, again. Is this not getting a little bit ridiculous? Pray tell, what guidelines have I violated this time, while everyone else is behaving perfectly fine? Shall we continue to ignore the elephant in the room? It's fine by me, I actually get a kick out of it.
- btrask 7y ago
  "The various forms of communication between humans are chock full of opportunities for error." Don't let it get you down.
  - mistermann 7y ago
    Oh, it doesn't get me down at all, quite the opposite. It's not myself I'm worried about, it's broader mankind. Take my suggestion at the end - does it not seem odd in the slightest that one of the highest concentrations of powerful minds on the internet seems to be more interested in complaining and pointing fingers, little different than any other social media site, rather than trying something new? How bizarre do things have to get on this planet before a little curiosity starts to form about how we got where we are today, and if perhaps there's something HN could do to get us out?