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Is this similar to Apple’s “off but not really off” modes for Bluetooth and WiFi where the toggle in Control Center keeps them active for certain purposes on iO

Is this similar to Apple’s “off but not really off” modes for Bluetooth and WiFi where the toggle in Control Center keeps them active for certain purposes on iOS (and making it “really off” requires going to Settings)? Or is it different from that? I couldn’t really distinguish even after reading this article fully. The way to turn it off, described in the article, did seem very messy, and as with Android, the steps depend on the device and what (customized) Android it’s running. I was so sick of this from iOS (because I don’t want WiFi to connect automatically in a different location or at 5 a.m.) that I have shortcuts readily accessible as widgets that turn these off, really off, when I want to.

nimajneb 7y ago
My Pixel 3a XL does this with WiFi, I'm convinced it's never actually off. It will auto connect to remembered WiFi networks even when I "turn WiFi off".
- sergers 7y ago
  Turn off location services with turning off wifi
- tjoff 7y ago
  Mine don't. Maybe Settings->Location->Wi-Fi and Bluetooth scanning is the setting that does it. There you can disable whether apps and services are allowed to scan wifi and/or bluetooth even if they are turned off.
- megous 7y ago
  Maybe it's PNO https://source.android.com/devices/tech/connect/wifi-scan https://source.android.com/devices/tech/connect/wifi-scan > On devices running Android 9 or lower, when the device is disconnected from Wi-Fi and the screen is off, PNO scans occur at 20 second intervals for the first three scans, then slow down to one scan every 60 seconds for all subsequent scans. PNO scanning stops when a saved network is found or the screen is turned on.
rvz 7y ago
It's similar and it is used for "Find My" and other Apple services. There's enough reason why Apple won't change this and will plan to keep it on for other purposes though unless you completely turn it off in the settings "cough" "contact tracing" "cough".
- ashtonkem 7y ago
  That’s the first time I’ve ever seen a cough double entendre.
diebeforei485 7y ago
I have crappy wi-fi in my bedroom, but I'd still prefer that apps update themselves while I'm asleep. The 5 am thing is actually perfect for me. I get to use LTE when browsing around at night, but it still downloads app updates over (slow) Wi-Fi in the early morning. By the time I'm awake around 8 am, it's all updated. If you don't want to auto-join your wi-fi network you can change that in Settings for your network.
- newscracker 7y ago
  > If you don't want to auto-join your wi-fi network you can change that in Settings for your network. That just makes joining a network cumbersome since I’d have to choose which network to join every time. Replacing one pain with another doesn’t sound great. As I said above, I have my shortcuts to deal with this annoyance. Another solution to this, suggested by many when iOS 11 came with this design, is a three way toggle. But Apple plays to its tune, and rarely listens to users (or even to power users and popular people who write about it).
4926394057 7y ago
I’m so fed up of going to settings for exactly this reason, can you explain how you created these widgets please?

nimajneb 7y ago

My Pixel 3a XL does this with WiFi, I'm convinced it's never actually off. It will auto connect to remembered WiFi networks even when I "turn WiFi off".

sergers 7y ago
Turn off location services with turning off wifi
tjoff 7y ago
Mine don't. Maybe Settings->Location->Wi-Fi and Bluetooth scanning is the setting that does it. There you can disable whether apps and services are allowed to scan wifi and/or bluetooth even if they are turned off.
megous 7y ago
Maybe it's PNO https://source.android.com/devices/tech/connect/wifi-scan https://source.android.com/devices/tech/connect/wifi-scan > On devices running Android 9 or lower, when the device is disconnected from Wi-Fi and the screen is off, PNO scans occur at 20 second intervals for the first three scans, then slow down to one scan every 60 seconds for all subsequent scans. PNO scanning stops when a saved network is found or the screen is turned on.

rvz 7y ago

It's similar and it is used for "Find My" and other Apple services. There's enough reason why Apple won't change this and will plan to keep it on for other purposes though unless you completely turn it off in the settings "cough" "contact tracing" "cough".

ashtonkem 7y ago
That’s the first time I’ve ever seen a cough double entendre.

diebeforei485 7y ago

I have crappy wi-fi in my bedroom, but I'd still prefer that apps update themselves while I'm asleep. The 5 am thing is actually perfect for me. I get to use LTE when browsing around at night, but it still downloads app updates over (slow) Wi-Fi in the early morning. By the time I'm awake around 8 am, it's all updated. If you don't want to auto-join your wi-fi network you can change that in Settings for your network.

newscracker 7y ago
> If you don't want to auto-join your wi-fi network you can change that in Settings for your network. That just makes joining a network cumbersome since I’d have to choose which network to join every time. Replacing one pain with another doesn’t sound great. As I said above, I have my shortcuts to deal with this annoyance. Another solution to this, suggested by many when iOS 11 came with this design, is a three way toggle. But Apple plays to its tune, and rarely listens to users (or even to power users and popular people who write about it).

4926394057 7y ago

I’m so fed up of going to settings for exactly this reason, can you explain how you created these widgets please?