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> Also, cheating really is so bad that most people will accept it anyways. I feel this is the part people miss. It's true that it's a cat and mouse game and th

> Also, cheating really is so bad that most people will accept it anyways. I feel this is the part people miss. It's true that it's a cat and mouse game and these end up still being worked around, but cheating has crippled games before. Search any popular game + "cheaters" and find thousands of posts complaining about these people. Even if you explain this stuff to people, and admit it's still not foolproof, they will embrace it. I think we see this mistake a lot in the tech bubble. People assume if only people knew their data was being used they'd be outraged, except if you give them a choice between that and paying for stuff they'll always take giving away their data. People just don't care that much about the digital "realm". Their online presence, their "digital rights", to them it's all ethereal and a lot of the few who are even aware of this stuff assume the fight is lost anyways, further whittling down the number of people who care.

TrinaryWorksToo 7y ago
I find that odd. I think that most people can't afford the prices asked to keep their data.
- BoorishBears 7y ago
  I mean, I feel like ad services are not making such unaffordable amounts of revenue per user. Facebook reports $112 of revenue per user in the US, and that number plummets to just $25 globally. Facebook is the privacy boogeyman these days, jokes about Zuckerberg are in no short supply. Yet if you told people you can pay $9 a month and Facebook never needs your data ever again except host it for you, they'd say no. In fact they might be insulted you had the audacity to ask for such a thing. You could ask for $1 and they'd still say no. It's just the same way they don't value their digital presence, they don't value digital goods and services. They'll pay $6 every morning for the same cup of coffee worth 30 cents of ingredients and 5 minutes of work, but balk at the idea of an app asking for 99 cents for a lifetime of development work. I'm not saying that from a place of bitterness to be clear, it's just what I've found to be the inconvenient reality of things.

TrinaryWorksToo 7y ago

I find that odd. I think that most people can't afford the prices asked to keep their data.

BoorishBears 7y ago
I mean, I feel like ad services are not making such unaffordable amounts of revenue per user. Facebook reports $112 of revenue per user in the US, and that number plummets to just $25 globally. Facebook is the privacy boogeyman these days, jokes about Zuckerberg are in no short supply. Yet if you told people you can pay $9 a month and Facebook never needs your data ever again except host it for you, they'd say no. In fact they might be insulted you had the audacity to ask for such a thing. You could ask for $1 and they'd still say no. It's just the same way they don't value their digital presence, they don't value digital goods and services. They'll pay $6 every morning for the same cup of coffee worth 30 cents of ingredients and 5 minutes of work, but balk at the idea of an app asking for 99 cents for a lifetime of development work. I'm not saying that from a place of bitterness to be clear, it's just what I've found to be the inconvenient reality of things.