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Unfortunately, this native version is quite laggy compared to the previous XQuartz releases. I wonder how it compares with a Linux version in a VM; my previous

by dchest 7y ago

Unfortunately, this native version is quite laggy compared to the previous XQuartz releases. I wonder how it compares with a Linux version in a VM; my previous experience suggests it may work better.

joeberon 7y ago
Yeah same issue here, much worse performance than the XQuartz releases. Dragging objects, especially arrows, is extremely laggy and awful. I've moved to Affinity Designer for now, which is better in almost every way except that unfortunately it is not easy at all to add LaTeX equations. Also the UI looks somehow feels less native macOS-like than the XQuartz versions, they're still not even using NSOpenPanel which is a huge pet peeve for me
- Vinnl 7y ago
  Apparently they're aware of it: https://mastodon.art/@inkscape/103993588384088165 https://mastodon.art/@inkscape/103993588384088165 > Yes. This is related to GTK and is holding the macOS release back while Win/Linux graduate from beta. If you want to connect with the developers they can be found at: https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team So if you want to help resolve it, perhaps check there :)
ken 7y ago
Hopefully removing a whole extra layer will make it easier to profile and improve, both for Mac tools and for Mac developers. One of my main complaints about Firefox is that everything is so completely custom (even the parts that look 'native') that all my years of Mac development knowledge are useless. I see that, for better or worse, Inkscape is still fully GTK+ even on macOS. It uses the slightly improved native features of that toolkit, but all the controls still look like they're ripped from an X11 app. The text labels don't even use Mac naming conventions. I wonder if GTK+ is architected in a way that's going to be easy to optimize on the Mac graphics architecture.
fvdessen 7y ago
It is not "quite laggy", it is unusably slow ... big disappointment because Inkscape is otherwise an excellent software
ryangorley 7y ago
The developers for the Mac build are aware of this issue and trying to determine how we can resolve it. As far as I understand it may be an upstream GTK problem, but if you'd like to know more (or even better, you have the skills to help) you can chat with them at: https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel_mac https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel_mac

by dchest 7y ago

Unfortunately, this native version is quite laggy compared to the previous XQuartz releases. I wonder how it compares with a Linux version in a VM; my previous experience suggests it may work better.

joeberon 7y ago

Yeah same issue here, much worse performance than the XQuartz releases. Dragging objects, especially arrows, is extremely laggy and awful. I've moved to Affinity Designer for now, which is better in almost every way except that unfortunately it is not easy at all to add LaTeX equations. Also the UI looks somehow feels less native macOS-like than the XQuartz versions, they're still not even using NSOpenPanel which is a huge pet peeve for me

Vinnl 7y ago
Apparently they're aware of it: https://mastodon.art/@inkscape/103993588384088165 https://mastodon.art/@inkscape/103993588384088165 > Yes. This is related to GTK and is holding the macOS release back while Win/Linux graduate from beta. If you want to connect with the developers they can be found at: https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team So if you want to help resolve it, perhaps check there :)

ken 7y ago

Hopefully removing a whole extra layer will make it easier to profile and improve, both for Mac tools and for Mac developers. One of my main complaints about Firefox is that everything is so completely custom (even the parts that look 'native') that all my years of Mac development knowledge are useless. I see that, for better or worse, Inkscape is still fully GTK+ even on macOS. It uses the slightly improved native features of that toolkit, but all the controls still look like they're ripped from an X11 app. The text labels don't even use Mac naming conventions. I wonder if GTK+ is architected in a way that's going to be easy to optimize on the Mac graphics architecture.

fvdessen 7y ago

It is not "quite laggy", it is unusably slow ... big disappointment because Inkscape is otherwise an excellent software

ryangorley 7y ago

The developers for the Mac build are aware of this issue and trying to determine how we can resolve it. As far as I understand it may be an upstream GTK problem, but if you'd like to know more (or even better, you have the skills to help) you can chat with them at: https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel_mac https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel_mac