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> Musk is just more open with plans and often too optimistic, Or call it what it is, lying. He habitually lies about timelines. > still have most advanced sel
by DanCarvajal 7y ago
> Musk is just more open with plans and often too optimistic,
Or call it what it is, lying. He habitually lies about timelines.
> still have most advanced self driving capabilities that are actually mass selling now.
Easy to be the most advanced if you're the only one "selling".
- omgwtfbyobbq 7y agoI wouldn't go so far as to call it lying. Unless you believe anyone who makes an inaccurate forward looking statement is lying, in which case I would say the majority of people lie the majority of the time when making forward looking statements.
- DanCarvajal 7y agoIt's a lie because he knows he can't reasonably achieve anything he's promising on any of the stated timelines. It's Theranos but with cars.
- omgwtfbyobbq 7y agoIt's possible. Do you have any specific examples? My experience with forward looking statements has been that people interpret something with many caveats as promises with no caveats.
- aquadrop 7y agoIt's not lying if he believes what he says. Do you have proofs that he deliberately does it? > Easy to be the most advanced if you're the only one "selling". I don't understand what you mean with quotes.
- DanCarvajal 7y agoThe constant pattern of over promising and at most under delivering indicates shenanigans. Telsa's FSD package is a scam that will never be delivered. It's not a sale because there's no service delivered, it's a lie meant to trick people and investors out of their money.
- aquadrop 7y agoThey also overdeliver sometimes.
- DanCarvajal 7y agoThis is true, no one expected a fart app for a car.