> grasping at straws to come up with some reason why the other side is wrong. It's an almost combative mindset to discussion. Where there is a victor, and a lo

> grasping at straws to come up with some reason why the other side is wrong. It's an almost combative mindset to discussion. Where there is a victor, and a loser. Someone being right is almost a full stop to the discussion; they've won, so what more is there to say?