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Stay truthful.

by anonymous246 16y ago

Stay truthful.

tvon 16y ago
The truth is calling someone a "fanboy" is childish and virtually guaranteed to send the discussion in a bad direction.
- nowarninglabel 16y ago
  What are we supposed to say? I don't think I'm the only one who is tired of what basically amounts to Apple marketing being posted constantly on HN (and sure maybe the rate of those posts is lower than sites like Techmeme but it's still quite high, see for example Ipad 2 posts http://www.google.com/search?q=site:news.ycombinator.com+%22ipad+2%22 http://www.google.com/search?q=site:news.ycombinator.com+%22... ) There has to be some way to identify this group of people, and say, look it's fine that you love Apple, but this is a place for in-depth discussions, not a place to show the latest shiny new trinket and 'ooh' and 'ahh' over its features.
  - tptacek 16y ago
    As you have just demonstrated, it is perfectly possible to complain about the coverage Apple gets on HN without calling people names.
    - burgerbrain 16y ago
      So are you going to answer his question? Since 'fanboys' is taboo or insulting, what are we supposed to collectively refer to these people as?
      - nkurz 16y ago
        His particular question reads fine as "Is it so hard to" without referring to who feels that way. If he genuinely wanted a response, he could be inclusive with "Is it so hard for us to". "Fanboys" is not taboo, but is insulting and unlikely to obtain a friendly response. "Fans of Apple" is probably a better neutral term. But like the original author, I wonder if you are actually asking a question. Are you?
      - rbarooah 16y ago
        Why do you need a term aside from for use in ad hominem attacks?
        burgerbrain 16y ago
        For effective communication. Specific terminology has more uses than insults you know.
  - rbarooah 16y ago
    If you read the thread, you'll see that there was no fawning. Just an attempt to understand the motivation behind Jobs negative statements. Understanding how and why someone like Jobs communicates seems pretty relevant to this community. Name calling does not.
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  - pdaviesa 16y ago
    You're all fanboys of some kind or another - "my apple product is sooo much prettier than yours" - "I'm way too cool for apple, I have android" Whatever. Show me the guy who has a Dell monitor, Toshiba laptop, droid smartphone, Apple iPad, and Sony flat screen.

Stay truthful.

tvon 16y ago

The truth is calling someone a "fanboy" is childish and virtually guaranteed to send the discussion in a bad direction.

nowarninglabel 16y ago
What are we supposed to say? I don't think I'm the only one who is tired of what basically amounts to Apple marketing being posted constantly on HN (and sure maybe the rate of those posts is lower than sites like Techmeme but it's still quite high, see for example Ipad 2 posts http://www.google.com/search?q=site:news.ycombinator.com+%22ipad+2%22 http://www.google.com/search?q=site:news.ycombinator.com+%22... ) There has to be some way to identify this group of people, and say, look it's fine that you love Apple, but this is a place for in-depth discussions, not a place to show the latest shiny new trinket and 'ooh' and 'ahh' over its features.
- tptacek 16y ago
  As you have just demonstrated, it is perfectly possible to complain about the coverage Apple gets on HN without calling people names.
  - burgerbrain 16y ago
    So are you going to answer his question? Since 'fanboys' is taboo or insulting, what are we supposed to collectively refer to these people as?
    - nkurz 16y ago
      His particular question reads fine as "Is it so hard to" without referring to who feels that way. If he genuinely wanted a response, he could be inclusive with "Is it so hard for us to". "Fanboys" is not taboo, but is insulting and unlikely to obtain a friendly response. "Fans of Apple" is probably a better neutral term. But like the original author, I wonder if you are actually asking a question. Are you?
    - rbarooah 16y ago
      Why do you need a term aside from for use in ad hominem attacks?
      - burgerbrain 16y ago
        For effective communication. Specific terminology has more uses than insults you know.
- rbarooah 16y ago
  If you read the thread, you'll see that there was no fawning. Just an attempt to understand the motivation behind Jobs negative statements. Understanding how and why someone like Jobs communicates seems pretty relevant to this community. Name calling does not.
- deleted 16y ago
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- pdaviesa 16y ago
  You're all fanboys of some kind or another - "my apple product is sooo much prettier than yours" - "I'm way too cool for apple, I have android" Whatever. Show me the guy who has a Dell monitor, Toshiba laptop, droid smartphone, Apple iPad, and Sony flat screen.