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Couldn't agree more.. People who say Electron (on which VSCode is running) is bloated and is slow probably haven't worked on full fledged IDEs using Java.. they

Couldn't agree more.. People who say Electron (on which VSCode is running) is bloated and is slow probably haven't worked on full fledged IDEs using Java.. they consume memory in Gigabytes, are slower, at least appear to be slower, despite using native UI and takes a lot longer to open.

saagarjha 7y ago
Eclipse isn't a particularly good user of Cocoa, is it?
- zamalek 7y ago
  It does something completely its own (and horrible/slow) on Windows (possibly one of the 6534 equally awful Java UI packages), so I can't imagine it does anything better with iOS.
  - p_l 7y ago
    Eclipse uses SWT, which actually piggybacks on native toolkits, though I don't know if it doesn't go through some ancient version of GTK in the process. AWT/Swing based IntelliJ manages to be much, much faster in comparison.
  - hellofunk 7y ago
    I think you mean macOS.
luckylion 7y ago
How often do you open your IDE though? I switched form VSCode to PHPStorm half a year ago, and while it feels a bit slower, the improvements are so unbelievable worth it for me. It does have a taste for memory, but then again, it easily saves me a lot of time each month, so just throwing RAM at it was a no-brainer for me.
- BrandoElFollito 7y ago
  I use PyCharm and tried several times to such to vscode. I forced myself to only use vscode for 10 days. I was relieved when I switched back to PyCharm. Vscode is nice but still quite far away from some good IDEs.
- nicoburns 7y ago
  In my case, often several times an hour. I work across 6-10 dofferent repositories. Opening them all at once is impractical, so being able to open each of the them quickly is quite important.
  - rhlsthrm 7y ago
    Have you tried multiple repositories in a VSCode workspace? It does a great job of managing multiple repos, git diffs, etc.
    - nicoburns 7y ago
      The problem I have with this is it makes "Go to file" functionality a bit too broad. e.g. If I want to open `package.json` I now have to choose between 10 different files. As I often `Cmd-P`, type pa, `Enter` without even looking, this makes it considerably slower. I also have to do a lot of context switching (e.g. to review someone else's code), and being able to have a separate set of tabs (even within the same repo) is super-useful for this. At previous jobs with less separated out code, I have taken this approach (although with Sublime Text rather than VSCode).
      - tracker1 7y ago
        Agreed... deeply nested directory structures are also pretty painful. Even in the mono-repos I work with, I'll generally open an editor per inner repo. Mostly ./feature/featurename/filename is as far as I have to open. Some of the C# projects are deeper though.
- tracker1 7y ago
AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
Or they have worked on full-fledged IDE's like VS 6, which starts up quickly and is super responsive even on period hardware.
- fendy3002 7y ago
  Oh how the tables are turned... Coming from VS2008-2010, it's weird to see someone said Visual Studio is fast
  - rafaelvasco 7y ago
    VS2019 is pretty fast, provided you don't use too much plugins.
  - Xelbair 7y ago
    VS2019 is pretty damn good. I use it daily for .net coding, while i use VS code for everything else.

saagarjha 7y ago

Eclipse isn't a particularly good user of Cocoa, is it?

zamalek 7y ago
It does something completely its own (and horrible/slow) on Windows (possibly one of the 6534 equally awful Java UI packages), so I can't imagine it does anything better with iOS.
- p_l 7y ago
  Eclipse uses SWT, which actually piggybacks on native toolkits, though I don't know if it doesn't go through some ancient version of GTK in the process. AWT/Swing based IntelliJ manages to be much, much faster in comparison.
- hellofunk 7y ago
  I think you mean macOS.

luckylion 7y ago

How often do you open your IDE though? I switched form VSCode to PHPStorm half a year ago, and while it feels a bit slower, the improvements are so unbelievable worth it for me. It does have a taste for memory, but then again, it easily saves me a lot of time each month, so just throwing RAM at it was a no-brainer for me.

BrandoElFollito 7y ago
I use PyCharm and tried several times to such to vscode. I forced myself to only use vscode for 10 days. I was relieved when I switched back to PyCharm. Vscode is nice but still quite far away from some good IDEs.
nicoburns 7y ago
In my case, often several times an hour. I work across 6-10 dofferent repositories. Opening them all at once is impractical, so being able to open each of the them quickly is quite important.
- rhlsthrm 7y ago
  Have you tried multiple repositories in a VSCode workspace? It does a great job of managing multiple repos, git diffs, etc.
  - nicoburns 7y ago
    The problem I have with this is it makes "Go to file" functionality a bit too broad. e.g. If I want to open `package.json` I now have to choose between 10 different files. As I often `Cmd-P`, type pa, `Enter` without even looking, this makes it considerably slower. I also have to do a lot of context switching (e.g. to review someone else's code), and being able to have a separate set of tabs (even within the same repo) is super-useful for this. At previous jobs with less separated out code, I have taken this approach (although with Sublime Text rather than VSCode).
    - tracker1 7y ago
      Agreed... deeply nested directory structures are also pretty painful. Even in the mono-repos I work with, I'll generally open an editor per inner repo. Mostly ./feature/featurename/filename is as far as I have to open. Some of the C# projects are deeper though.
tracker1 7y ago

AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago

Or they have worked on full-fledged IDE's like VS 6, which starts up quickly and is super responsive even on period hardware.

fendy3002 7y ago
Oh how the tables are turned... Coming from VS2008-2010, it's weird to see someone said Visual Studio is fast
- rafaelvasco 7y ago
  VS2019 is pretty fast, provided you don't use too much plugins.
- Xelbair 7y ago
  VS2019 is pretty damn good. I use it daily for .net coding, while i use VS code for everything else.