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Yes that is it, thank you! I like that it clears things up like - > According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents and 28 visitors, the ba

Yes that is it, thank you! I like that it clears things up like - > According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the market. I've worked in a lab and Occam's razor for me says the lab that is 280 meters away and studied bat viruses is a lot more plausible than it originating in a wet market. People make stupid mistakes handling waste all the time. There was no need for the Chinese government to throw the wet market under the bus or for people to imply Chinese people ate bats or some other racially motivated theory and there was no need to believe the chinese government created a bioweapon. Most likely is that it was just a horrible mistake and careless handling of biohazardous waste/animals.

Izkata 7y ago
> I've worked in a lab and Occam's razor for me says the lab that is 280 meters away Yeeaah, about that... I looked more myself last time when I mentioned this and couldn't find the reference I originally saw (it was more than a month before my comment a month ago), instead found this: https://www.google.com/maps/place/%E6%96%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%BA%AA%E5%AE%B6%E7%94%B5%E6%94%B6%E5%94%AE%E8%B0%83%E5%89%82%E7%AB%99/@30.6139163,114.2607687,18z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m18!1m12!4m11!1m3!2m2!1d114.2619792!2d30.613991!1m5!1m1!1s0x342eaeb59c797e79:0x65d68e09b1b0e542!2m2!1d114.261863!2d30.613914!3e2!3m4!1s0x342eaeb59c797e79:0x65d68e09b1b0e542!8m2!3d30.613914!4d114.261863 https://www.google.com/maps/place/%E6%96%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%BA%A... https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en&text=%E6%96%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%BA%AA%E5%AE%B6%E7%94%B5%E6%94%B6%E5%94%AE%E8%B0%83%E5%89%82%E7%AB%99 https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto... According to Google Maps and Translate, the pin in the image in that PDF that says "Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention" is actually on a building labeled "New Century Home Appliances Collection and Disposal Station". 14-15km appears to be the actual distance from the market to the lab: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Wuhan+South+China+Seafood+Wholesale+Market,+Jianghan+Qu,+Wuhan+Shi,+Hubei+Sheng,+China/China,+CN+%E6%B9%96%E5%8C%97%E7%9C%81+%E6%AD%A6%E6%B1%89%E5%B8%82+%E6%AD%A6%E6%98%8C%E5%8C%BA+%E5%B0%8F%E6%B4%AA%E5%B1%B1%E4%B8%AD%E5%8C%BA44%E5%8F%B7+Wuhan+Institute+of+Virology,+CAS:+Hubei+Engineering+and+Technology+Research+Center+for+Viral+Diseases+%E9%82%AE%E6%94%BF%E7%BC%96%E7%A0%81:+430071/@30.5778361,114.2362297,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x342ea94ab99e2bfd:0x5ba9b4b6604c943d!2m2!1d114.2616875!2d30.6177919!1m5!1m1!1s0x342ea56945e84d71:0x402ec92fd18fef96!2m2!1d114.3508524!2d30.5391912!3e2 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Wuhan+South+China+Seafood+Wh... There is one building 4km away called the Wuhan CDC&P, but looking at the surrounding buildings that appears to be an office, not a lab: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Wuhan+South+China+Seafood+Wholesale+Market,+Jianghan+Qu,+Wuhan+Shi,+Hubei+Sheng,+China/Wuhan+Centres+for+Disease+Prevention+%26+Control,+Jiang+Han+Bei+Lu,+Jiangan+Qu,+Wuhan+Shi,+Hubei+Sheng,+China/@30.6034003,114.2531576,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x342ea94ab99e2bfd:0x5ba9b4b6604c943d!2m2!1d114.2616875!2d30.6177919!1m5!1m1!1s0x342eaee6df67e08b:0x9cbacadc65f81283!2m2!1d114.279647!2d30.589446!3e0 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Wuhan+South+China+Seafood+Wh... IMO despite the faked image, the same city is still suspicious, especially with stories like this coming out now: https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html?guccounter=1 https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in...

Izkata 7y ago

> I've worked in a lab and Occam's razor for me says the lab that is 280 meters away Yeeaah, about that... I looked more myself last time when I mentioned this and couldn't find the reference I originally saw (it was more than a month before my comment a month ago), instead found this: https://www.google.com/maps/place/%E6%96%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%BA%AA%E5%AE%B6%E7%94%B5%E6%94%B6%E5%94%AE%E8%B0%83%E5%89%82%E7%AB%99/@30.6139163,114.2607687,18z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m18!1m12!4m11!1m3!2m2!1d114.2619792!2d30.613991!1m5!1m1!1s0x342eaeb59c797e79:0x65d68e09b1b0e542!2m2!1d114.261863!2d30.613914!3e2!3m4!1s0x342eaeb59c797e79:0x65d68e09b1b0e542!8m2!3d30.613914!4d114.261863 https://www.google.com/maps/place/%E6%96%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%BA%A... https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en&text=%E6%96%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%BA%AA%E5%AE%B6%E7%94%B5%E6%94%B6%E5%94%AE%E8%B0%83%E5%89%82%E7%AB%99 https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto... According to Google Maps and Translate, the pin in the image in that PDF that says "Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention" is actually on a building labeled "New Century Home Appliances Collection and Disposal Station". 14-15km appears to be the actual distance from the market to the lab: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Wuhan+South+China+Seafood+Wholesale+Market,+Jianghan+Qu,+Wuhan+Shi,+Hubei+Sheng,+China/China,+CN+%E6%B9%96%E5%8C%97%E7%9C%81+%E6%AD%A6%E6%B1%89%E5%B8%82+%E6%AD%A6%E6%98%8C%E5%8C%BA+%E5%B0%8F%E6%B4%AA%E5%B1%B1%E4%B8%AD%E5%8C%BA44%E5%8F%B7+Wuhan+Institute+of+Virology,+CAS:+Hubei+Engineering+and+Technology+Research+Center+for+Viral+Diseases+%E9%82%AE%E6%94%BF%E7%BC%96%E7%A0%81:+430071/@30.5778361,114.2362297,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x342ea94ab99e2bfd:0x5ba9b4b6604c943d!2m2!1d114.2616875!2d30.6177919!1m5!1m1!1s0x342ea56945e84d71:0x402ec92fd18fef96!2m2!1d114.3508524!2d30.5391912!3e2 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Wuhan+South+China+Seafood+Wh... There is one building 4km away called the Wuhan CDC&P, but looking at the surrounding buildings that appears to be an office, not a lab: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Wuhan+South+China+Seafood+Wholesale+Market,+Jianghan+Qu,+Wuhan+Shi,+Hubei+Sheng,+China/Wuhan+Centres+for+Disease+Prevention+%26+Control,+Jiang+Han+Bei+Lu,+Jiangan+Qu,+Wuhan+Shi,+Hubei+Sheng,+China/@30.6034003,114.2531576,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x342ea94ab99e2bfd:0x5ba9b4b6604c943d!2m2!1d114.2616875!2d30.6177919!1m5!1m1!1s0x342eaee6df67e08b:0x9cbacadc65f81283!2m2!1d114.279647!2d30.589446!3e0 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Wuhan+South+China+Seafood+Wh... IMO despite the faked image, the same city is still suspicious, especially with stories like this coming out now: https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html?guccounter=1 https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in...