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It's not just build quality, it's also aesthetics. You say you can't speak for design, but that's what most people care about more than the ability to bounce th
by nkohari 16y ago
It's not just build quality, it's also aesthetics. You say you can't speak for design, but that's what most people care about more than the ability to bounce their laptop off of concrete. That's why the average consumer isn't in the market for a Toughbook.
- daten 16y agoWhat data are basing the opinions of "most people" and "average consumers" on?
- jshen 16y agoconsumer sales?
- recoiledsnake 16y agoYou mean around 17% to 20% ? That's 'most people' and the 'average consumer'?
- jshen 16y agocan you link to the numbers
- ShaunK 16y agoWell then HP, Dell and Acer make the most beautiful laptops in the world.
- jshen 16y agoAre you including sales to businesses in those numbers?
- ShaunK 16y agoYes probably. And in reality if you look at laptops > $1k it's not even close, Apple has 90% of that market. What that says to me though is that most people care more about cost than aesthetics. The point being that aesthetics isn't really the trump card that a lot of people think it is.
- jshen 16y agoI think we have to bucket buyers into different groups. For one large group I think it is the dominant factor. I think the word "aesthetics" maybe be a bit of a misnomer. It's more than just physical appearance. There's a clean elegance to almost all aspects of the device including the software. The tablets will be a good test, so far the android tablets aren't a lot cheaper than the ipad. We'll see how they do.
- jasonwocky 16y agoDoes it matter? Are you disputing the claim? Do you think that people care more about the ability to bounce their laptop off of concrete than aesthetics?
- tomjen3 16y agoDepends on which group you look into. The social level who can afford to buy apple? Most likely not that many. Those who can't afford to change the laptop if it breaks (or who would find this to be a major expense)? Yeah, I can believe that.
- jodrellblank 16y agoThe social level who can afford to buy apple? A Toughbook costs more than a comparable MBP.
- moe 16y agoAnd for the price of a MBP you can buy 2-3 "normal" laptops. I.e. the low-end budget stuff that ain't pretty, may have a whiny fan, but still gets the job done.
- moe 16y agoWhy did that get downvoted? For reference, here's a Lenovo G550 for $389: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146839 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146... The MBP starts at $1199.
- tomjen3 16y agoAnd insurance costs more than not having it, but the poorer you are, the more you need it. So yeah, it is maybe more expensive but I can totally see why you would want that.
- jodrellblank 16y ago
- recoiledsnake 16y ago>That's why the average consumer isn't in the market for a Toughbook. The average consumer isn't in the market for a beautiful piece of a glass laptop that breaks with little impact either.
- stcredzero 16y agoMy original Aluminum Unibody 13" macbook has been dropped 6ft onto a hardwood floor, and banged multiple times against aluminum braces. Has a few dings, but still going strong.
- kgermino 16y agoI disagree. I think that the average person looks almost exclusively at price, and not much else. However, in my experience the few people that pay much attention to the specific type of laptop they are buying pay at least as much attention to quality as they do to aesthetics. (Note that I don't have any numbers to back this up, this is just my experience from the people who I help buy computers)