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Aren’t you just describing driving? What is the difference between thousands of cars crammed together on an interstate vs some cars watching a movie in a field?
by cglace 7y ago
Aren’t you just describing driving? What is the difference between thousands of cars crammed together on an interstate vs some cars watching a movie in a field?
- sv9 7y agoPresumably the cars crammed together in a field is supposed to be fun, whereas an interstate is supposed to be soul-crushing.
- saagarjha 7y agoWhen you're driving, you dump the fumes behind you and move away.
- servercobra 7y agoAnd drive right into the fumes of all the cars in front of you.
- radicalbyte 7y agoThe ones on a field will be emitting less pollutants whilst there will be way less on the motorway per m2. It's a bigger problem where I live in Europe because of the number of diesels. Petrol cars aren't that bad especially when only idling for the airco. Diesels are disgusting idling.
- cglace 7y agoHow do you figure there would be less pollutants on the highway? Where I live the density of cars on the highway is much greater than the density of the cars in the field.
- radicalbyte 7y agoI drive outside of rush hour so there aren't a lot of cars on the road. So as I originally said, for me it would be a problem. For other people (like yourself) it isn't a problem. I'll stay watching movies at home.
- droithomme 7y ago> Petrol cars aren't that bad especially when only idling for the airco. Diesels are disgusting idling. Petrol cars do not do complete combustion and emit carbon monoxide which is toxic. Diesels don't. Modern diesels, running on mandated low sulfur fuel, can have lower levels of troublesome emissions than petrol cars. Trucks are a different matter though as they generally are not subject to the same emission standards at present.
- radicalbyte 7y agoI drive what, at the time, was being sold as the cleanest diesel engine ever. A super efficient VW which could do 33km for 1 liter of fuel. All lies it turns out. You can smell it easily whilst idling on a warm day with low wind.. and it smells really bad.
- droithomme 7y agoRight I own that car and you are right its claimed emissions were a lie. I now have the fix and it complies with emissions regulations, and gets the same mileage as before. It was stupid of management and engineers to try to defeat emissions tests because clearly they were capable of delivering the car they promised using the engineering skills they had. Being dumb cost them billions of dollars and has nearly destroyed the company, a fine company. Someone just didn't want to do things right at the time and maybe got off on scamming. Current status is that this car has unbelievably low emissions and gets astonishing mileage and also has high performance. Only problem is service costs a lot and requires specialized technicians. I hear Teslas and Apple products have a similar issue. > I can smell it Mine has no smell before or after the fix. I can smell petrol exhaust.
- selimthegrim 6y agoI formerly leased one before the fix. I thought it was 5-10% mpg reduction?
- samatman 7y agoWhile diesel fuel combustion engines produce lower levels of carbon monoxide than gasoline engines, these emissions can still generate lethal amounts of carbon monoxide given a sufficient amount of time in an enclosed space. Carbon monoxide makes up anywhere from 2% to 12% of diesel exhaust gases. https://www.dieselinjurylaw.com/carbon-monoxide-poisoning https://www.dieselinjurylaw.com/carbon-monoxide-poisoning
- userbinator 7y agoPropane and natural gas cars are common in some places. As evidenced by forklifts, the exhaust is clean enough for them to be used in large, somewhat-well-ventilated spaces indoor like warehouses.
- asdff 7y agoContext is everything. Thousands of cars crammed together in either case, but one case with with the goal of transporting masses of people vs. burning gasoline to power a 3000lb generator and air condition your personal park bench while you move nowhere.
- catalogia 7y agoI don't know why everybody is talking about air conditioning; I've never used air conditioning at an outdoor movie theater. Maybe if you live in Southern Florida running the AC would make sense, but right now at this time of year most of the country is firmly in "bring a sweater" territory. Keep in mind that outdoor theaters don't work during the day, only after dark, when everything cools down...
- pc86 7y agoYou're right, context is everything, and in this context a huge number of people who drive to work every day aren't driving now. So if fifty cars sit in a parking lot for an hour, and half of them are running, it's an extraordinarily small addition to the huge loss in overall emissions.
- dylan604 7y agoExcept air flow from moving cars allows fresh air intake to have a better chance of actually getting fresh air than if your car is stationary directly behind the exhaust of another car