> These are socialised, citizens don't pay them through their insurance package, but they're paid by society (citizens) through taxes for sure. This isn't true

> These are socialised, citizens don't pay them through their insurance package, but they're paid by society (citizens) through taxes for sure. This isn't true for much of western Europe which doesn't have a single-payer model. Subsidies and regulations are more abundant than in the US, certainly, but for example everyone where I live in western Europe has to pay out of pocket for insurance premiums and deal with deductibles, etc.