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Only those that never lived under communism would believe those numbers. Same as the information on the coronavirus from China. https://www.econlib.org/about-t

Only those that never lived under communism would believe those numbers. Same as the information on the coronavirus from China. https://www.econlib.org/about-that-cuban-life-expectancy/ https://www.econlib.org/about-that-cuban-life-expectancy/

Gibbon1 7y ago
You can make a similar argument that Cuba and China's literacy rate is very low because they're communists.
- yostrovs 7y ago
  You can argue anything you want. I just don't believe the numbers reported. Not for healthcare in Cuba, not the virus in China. And literacy rates in communist countries were made high so kids will be indoctrinated into Lenin as quickly and thoroughly as possible. That's the only reason.
arcticbull 7y ago
Sure if you just pretend, anything's possible! Your article begins with: "Wealth and health are correlated because greater wealth can buy better health care." Wealth is not the only way to obtain good health outcomes, Cuba has a ton of doctors and they don't get paid massive, overwhelming salaries. Just because they don't get paid outsized amounts doesn't mean they're bad at their jobs. Based on all the OECD charts, there's very much a point of diminishing returns re: spending on healthcare and outcomes -- and very much so re: life expectancy. [1] It's pretty clear that spending 8X as much money didn't make people live 8X longer. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/the-link-between-life-expectancy-and-health-spending-us-focus https://ourworldindata.org/the-link-between-life-expectancy-...
- yostrovs 7y ago
  I lived in the most prosperous communist country and I know for a fact that the numbers reported are lies. You are free to believe whatever you want since you haven't established the need for skepticism in this sphere. But when lied to often enough, folks like me KNOW were being lied to. Cuban healthcare is that perfect lie the ignorant fall for.

Gibbon1 7y ago

You can make a similar argument that Cuba and China's literacy rate is very low because they're communists.

yostrovs 7y ago
You can argue anything you want. I just don't believe the numbers reported. Not for healthcare in Cuba, not the virus in China. And literacy rates in communist countries were made high so kids will be indoctrinated into Lenin as quickly and thoroughly as possible. That's the only reason.

arcticbull 7y ago

Sure if you just pretend, anything's possible! Your article begins with: "Wealth and health are correlated because greater wealth can buy better health care." Wealth is not the only way to obtain good health outcomes, Cuba has a ton of doctors and they don't get paid massive, overwhelming salaries. Just because they don't get paid outsized amounts doesn't mean they're bad at their jobs. Based on all the OECD charts, there's very much a point of diminishing returns re: spending on healthcare and outcomes -- and very much so re: life expectancy. [1] It's pretty clear that spending 8X as much money didn't make people live 8X longer. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/the-link-between-life-expectancy-and-health-spending-us-focus https://ourworldindata.org/the-link-between-life-expectancy-...

yostrovs 7y ago
I lived in the most prosperous communist country and I know for a fact that the numbers reported are lies. You are free to believe whatever you want since you haven't established the need for skepticism in this sphere. But when lied to often enough, folks like me KNOW were being lied to. Cuban healthcare is that perfect lie the ignorant fall for.