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I disagree with this as much as I dislike java I believe its a great language to teach someone object oriented programming. And you don't really need and ide at

I disagree with this as much as I dislike java I believe its a great language to teach someone object oriented programming. And you don't really need and ide at all, any text editor will do and will probably take away the complexity of learning the UI and help concentrate on what actual programming is. An IDE is really not needed to write your first algorithms as a student.

DeathArrow 7y ago
But object oriented programming is gradually considered an antipattern by more and more people.
- kyriakos 7y ago
  so is the problem that Java is not good as a programming language or that OO is no longer considered cool?
  - fishmaster 7y ago
    Both.
  - DeathArrow 7y ago
    Java forces OO design on you. Everything is an object and you can't have free functions.
fishmaster 7y ago
We're talking about computer science and not about enterprise programming. Object oriented programming is not the focus here.