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> it's the ability to reference any fragment of the text so that it lives in multiple places at the same time. I've seen Roam being mentioned as a graph databa

> it's the ability to reference any fragment of the text so that it lives in multiple places at the same time. I've seen Roam being mentioned as a graph database for notes before but your comment helps me see it! Would this be a good working model - each `note` entry is logged to a central table in something like a relational database and each `page` is a materialised view over that relation. In contrast, for most of the other note taking apps, the abstraction for a note seems closer to a file. Would be fun to implement something that works locally with an embeddable graph database library.

whitehouse3 7y ago
Are there decent embeddable graph databases? I tried Roam but my network connection makes SaaS unusable. Would love a local version.
- lez 7y ago
  Zettelkasten is the original name of the concept of networked note-taking. It even worked on paper. Roam took the concept close to users with a polished UI. Some history: https://fortelabs.co/blog/how-to-take-smart-notes/ https://fortelabs.co/blog/how-to-take-smart-notes/
  - slightwinder 7y ago
    > Zettelkasten is the original name of the concept of networked note-taking. No, it's not. Zettelkasten is just the german word for "Box of paper slips", a common tool for certain people. There are many famous Paperboxes from artists and scientist over the centuries, but the ojne responsable for this new zettelkasten-cargo-cult would be Luhmanns Zettelkasten. Niklas Luhmann was a sociologist who had the habbit to gather notes to an excessiv level on paper slips and collect those in boxes. He was famous because he used common organizing-methods of scientist for notes, instead of just quotes, books and articles. Some years ago serious research started about his notes, which are now all scaned and online available, and since then some kind of irrational cargo-cult around him has started.
- jacobobryant 7y ago
  Crux is good, and it has a file system storage option.
- whitehouse3 7y ago
  And within a few days, this one makes it to the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22867767 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22867767

whitehouse3 7y ago

Are there decent embeddable graph databases? I tried Roam but my network connection makes SaaS unusable. Would love a local version.

lez 7y ago
Zettelkasten is the original name of the concept of networked note-taking. It even worked on paper. Roam took the concept close to users with a polished UI. Some history: https://fortelabs.co/blog/how-to-take-smart-notes/ https://fortelabs.co/blog/how-to-take-smart-notes/
- slightwinder 7y ago
  > Zettelkasten is the original name of the concept of networked note-taking. No, it's not. Zettelkasten is just the german word for "Box of paper slips", a common tool for certain people. There are many famous Paperboxes from artists and scientist over the centuries, but the ojne responsable for this new zettelkasten-cargo-cult would be Luhmanns Zettelkasten. Niklas Luhmann was a sociologist who had the habbit to gather notes to an excessiv level on paper slips and collect those in boxes. He was famous because he used common organizing-methods of scientist for notes, instead of just quotes, books and articles. Some years ago serious research started about his notes, which are now all scaned and online available, and since then some kind of irrational cargo-cult around him has started.
jacobobryant 7y ago
Crux is good, and it has a file system storage option.
whitehouse3 7y ago
And within a few days, this one makes it to the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22867767 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22867767