Sun had vision, I don't think Oracle ever did. I don't really think salesforce's early 'no software' bit counts as vision either. Maybe. There are huge swaths

Sun had vision, I don't think Oracle ever did. I don't really think salesforce's early 'no software' bit counts as vision either. Maybe. There are huge swaths of mundane companies that make up most of the econony, wherein I would say there's a lack of vision in the way we understand it. What they have is operational tenacity, rigor, professionalism, and a near term vision to 'make money'. For better or worse, that's what we have.