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> Do you have any background in this, or any understanding of it? Yes, I do. If you want help understanding it just keep asking me questions about instead of

by podgaj 7y ago

> Do you have any background in this, or any understanding of it? Yes, I do. If you want help understanding it just keep asking me questions about instead of trying to tease out my credentials. I am not stating theories, I am only throwing out some hypotheses.

throwaway_pdp09 7y ago
OK, where does it say black tea increases NO in vivo? I did look at your paper saying black tea inhibits sars, but where actually does it say extracts of it do other than in vitro? (I bet bleach does even better but that doesn't help in reality except for wiping down surfaces). Reference for beets being linked to NO isn't given. Wiki says "eNOS synthesizes NO from the terminal guanidine-nitrogen of L-arginine and oxygen and yields citrulline as a byproduct", how does that link to beets? Thanks
- podgaj 7y ago
  >where does it say black tea increases NO in vivo? Activation of Endothelial Nitric-oxide Synthase by the p38 MAPK in Response to Black Tea Polyphenols* https://www.jbc.org/content/279/45/46637.short https://www.jbc.org/content/279/45/46637.short >Reference for beets being linked to NO isn't given. Beetroot juice increase nitric oxide metabolites in both men and women regardless of body mass https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/09637486.2015.1121469 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/09637486.2015.11... Nitrates in vegetal foods are turned into nitric oxide in the GI tract.
dylan604 7y ago
Or you could just provide your credentials. Hi my name is XXXX, and I'm certified _______. Here's why I believe NO could be a useful thing to study in the fight against the coronavirus. Otherwise, you're just some random person on the internet contributing to the FUD.
- podgaj 7y ago
  There are plenty of credentialed people who do not know much or use their credentials to scam people, so it really does not matter. If I posted my credentials everyone would just believe me because of my credentials. I want the ideas to stand on their own. If you do not understand nutritional science you should not believe anyone, and I am not advising anyone take anything and I am not writing for the lay person.
  - throwaway_pdp09 7y ago
    > If I posted my credentials everyone would just believe me because of my credentials Credentials count for something, not everything, as you pointed out. But they suggest a good starting point. So please do post yours. > If you do not understand nutritional science you should not believe anyone That completely defeats the point of having experts, so I disagree. Experts exist so I don't have to spend 1/4 of my life becoming one in their area (so I become one in mine instead). > and I am not writing for the lay person Yes you are, this is a forum of lay people when it comes to nutritional science (although it's not nutritional science you're talking about, more biochemistry or something like that. Difference being 'eat 5 a day and cut down the salt' and knowing the details of serotonin denaturing by MAOI-B (or is it -A?)) I'll follow yer other stuff up tomorrow, when I'm sober. Alcohol dehydrogenase FTW.
    - podgaj 7y ago
      I am writing here, where there are lay people, but I am still not writing for lay people. And I am not giving up credentials because if you worked in academia you would know why. No one is an expert on the nutrigenomics of COVID19, not even me. Again, I am talking hypothesis, not theory or practice. No one needs to be credentialed to have a hypothesis but just be prepared to have it questioned. Old nutritional science was "cut out the salt", but it is going in a different direction.
      - andarleen 7y ago
        Keep writing. Layperson here and I doubt taking in more black tea, zinc, and eating beetroot will harm anyway. Also it appears to make sense that increasing the amount of a molecule that allows for better circulation, and thus more oxygen flowing, could potentially help.

by podgaj 7y ago

throwaway_pdp09 7y ago

OK, where does it say black tea increases NO in vivo? I did look at your paper saying black tea inhibits sars, but where actually does it say extracts of it do other than in vitro? (I bet bleach does even better but that doesn't help in reality except for wiping down surfaces). Reference for beets being linked to NO isn't given. Wiki says "eNOS synthesizes NO from the terminal guanidine-nitrogen of L-arginine and oxygen and yields citrulline as a byproduct", how does that link to beets? Thanks

podgaj 7y ago
>where does it say black tea increases NO in vivo? Activation of Endothelial Nitric-oxide Synthase by the p38 MAPK in Response to Black Tea Polyphenols* https://www.jbc.org/content/279/45/46637.short https://www.jbc.org/content/279/45/46637.short >Reference for beets being linked to NO isn't given. Beetroot juice increase nitric oxide metabolites in both men and women regardless of body mass https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/09637486.2015.1121469 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/09637486.2015.11... Nitrates in vegetal foods are turned into nitric oxide in the GI tract.

dylan604 7y ago

Or you could just provide your credentials. Hi my name is XXXX, and I'm certified _______. Here's why I believe NO could be a useful thing to study in the fight against the coronavirus. Otherwise, you're just some random person on the internet contributing to the FUD.

podgaj 7y ago
There are plenty of credentialed people who do not know much or use their credentials to scam people, so it really does not matter. If I posted my credentials everyone would just believe me because of my credentials. I want the ideas to stand on their own. If you do not understand nutritional science you should not believe anyone, and I am not advising anyone take anything and I am not writing for the lay person.
- throwaway_pdp09 7y ago
  > If I posted my credentials everyone would just believe me because of my credentials Credentials count for something, not everything, as you pointed out. But they suggest a good starting point. So please do post yours. > If you do not understand nutritional science you should not believe anyone That completely defeats the point of having experts, so I disagree. Experts exist so I don't have to spend 1/4 of my life becoming one in their area (so I become one in mine instead). > and I am not writing for the lay person Yes you are, this is a forum of lay people when it comes to nutritional science (although it's not nutritional science you're talking about, more biochemistry or something like that. Difference being 'eat 5 a day and cut down the salt' and knowing the details of serotonin denaturing by MAOI-B (or is it -A?)) I'll follow yer other stuff up tomorrow, when I'm sober. Alcohol dehydrogenase FTW.
  - podgaj 7y ago
    I am writing here, where there are lay people, but I am still not writing for lay people. And I am not giving up credentials because if you worked in academia you would know why. No one is an expert on the nutrigenomics of COVID19, not even me. Again, I am talking hypothesis, not theory or practice. No one needs to be credentialed to have a hypothesis but just be prepared to have it questioned. Old nutritional science was "cut out the salt", but it is going in a different direction.
    - andarleen 7y ago
      Keep writing. Layperson here and I doubt taking in more black tea, zinc, and eating beetroot will harm anyway. Also it appears to make sense that increasing the amount of a molecule that allows for better circulation, and thus more oxygen flowing, could potentially help.