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Zoom Call with Israelis Lands a Gaza Peace Activist in Jail

50 points by psim1 7y ago

_bxg1 7y ago
Given the current news cycle, this headline heavily implies that Zoom's lack of privacy/security was somehow responsible for the activist being caught, but I couldn't find anything about that aspect in the article itself. The story is significant in its own right, but I'm exhausted by NYTimes' accelerating descent into clickbait.
- correstco 7y ago
  It was a public chat. Anyone could participate/watch/monitor. The blame lies not with Zoom. The blame lies with Hamas - the group which arrested the people.
  - _bxg1 7y ago
    That's exactly my point.
  - einpoklum 7y ago
    Not exactly. They were arrested by the government. Now, I don't hold governments in very high regard, and certainly don't think the arrest is legitimate, but it's as though you had said that if the German police arrested some people then "it's the fault of the CDU - the group that arrested them".
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  - onyva 7y ago
    You want to know what happens to Israelis who are “suspected” of talking to Palestinians, or foreigners who arrive or leave Israel and are suspected of having done that?
    - dogma1138 7y ago
      Given the sheer number of both Israeli and foreign NGOs and activists that do it on a daily basis and that quite a large number of non-Jewish Israeli residents and citizen have families in the territories - nothing. Heck before the situation in Syria had escalated out to an all out war it wasn’t unheard of for Israeli Druze to wed Syrian nationals. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/1.5104073 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/1.5104073 There is much more nuance to the situation in the Middle East than you think.
    - ybalkind 7y ago
      Yes, I want to know. Please enlighten and provide sources?
- _6fmb 7y ago
  Hmm only in the context of HN. I don't think the general public reads it in a blaming Zoom way.
  - _bxg1 7y ago
    A quick search on NPR yields eight separate recent articles about Zoom's security and/or privacy problems. This is a mainstream issue.
cracker_jacks 7y ago
Zoom townhalls with people of differing opinions and cultures is a brilliant idea.
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ajaygeorge91 7y ago
... bridge-building initiative it calls “Skype With Your Enemy.” uses Zoom

50 points by psim1 7y ago

Given the current news cycle, this headline heavily implies that Zoom's lack of privacy/security was somehow responsible for the activist being caught, but I couldn't find anything about that aspect in the article itself. The story is significant in its own right, but I'm exhausted by NYTimes' accelerating descent into clickbait.

correstco 7y ago
It was a public chat. Anyone could participate/watch/monitor. The blame lies not with Zoom. The blame lies with Hamas - the group which arrested the people.
- _bxg1 7y ago
  That's exactly my point.
- einpoklum 7y ago
  Not exactly. They were arrested by the government. Now, I don't hold governments in very high regard, and certainly don't think the arrest is legitimate, but it's as though you had said that if the German police arrested some people then "it's the fault of the CDU - the group that arrested them".
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- onyva 7y ago
  You want to know what happens to Israelis who are “suspected” of talking to Palestinians, or foreigners who arrive or leave Israel and are suspected of having done that?
  - dogma1138 7y ago
    Given the sheer number of both Israeli and foreign NGOs and activists that do it on a daily basis and that quite a large number of non-Jewish Israeli residents and citizen have families in the territories - nothing. Heck before the situation in Syria had escalated out to an all out war it wasn’t unheard of for Israeli Druze to wed Syrian nationals. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/1.5104073 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/1.5104073 There is much more nuance to the situation in the Middle East than you think.
  - ybalkind 7y ago
    Yes, I want to know. Please enlighten and provide sources?
_6fmb 7y ago
Hmm only in the context of HN. I don't think the general public reads it in a blaming Zoom way.
- _bxg1 7y ago
  A quick search on NPR yields eight separate recent articles about Zoom's security and/or privacy problems. This is a mainstream issue.

cracker_jacks 7y ago

Zoom townhalls with people of differing opinions and cultures is a brilliant idea.

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ajaygeorge91 7y ago

... bridge-building initiative it calls “Skype With Your Enemy.” uses Zoom