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Or: “Don’t show up at the office sick, you’re not ‘dedicated’, you’re just an asshole.”

DoreenMichele 7y ago
Filed under "People I would like to slap, except it involves touching them." Yeah. But in order to enforce that, we need different sick leave and health care policies and ...stuff. And that's very much a world I would like to see born of this mess, like a Phoenix rising from the ashes.
- guscost 7y ago
  That’s really the only hope I’m clinging to at this point, that over the next hundred-plus years the cultural changes might be worth all the damage.
  - DoreenMichele 7y ago
    Let's shoot for a five year time frame for some major cultural changes and I'm in. Let's start on fostering them today. If we jump on it, we could flatten the curve with less economic pain this very year.
    - guscost 7y ago
      That ship may have sailed, unfortunately.
      - DoreenMichele 7y ago
        Let's build another.
dmode 7y ago
I always wondered about this. For COVID, the recommendation is that you have to be symptom free for 14 days before you are considered not contagious. Adding another 7-10 days of actual disease, you will be asking people to take 21-24 days off for a disease ? That is simply not accepted in American corporate culture, where many mothers return to work 2 weeks after giving birth
- guscost 7y ago
  Realistically, I mean symptomatic (coughing and sneezing). It’s not perfect but people are typically most contagious while they have symptoms. Plus, when you don’t need bed rest, you can still do any work that can reasonably be done from a remote location. Most companies haven’t done much to push that boundary in the past, and that’s a good idea, but it’s not a complete solution by any means.
  - dmode 7y ago
    Are there any studies that prove that asymptomatic people are less contagious ?
- mnm1 7y ago
  Then we need to start accepting it. Those that don't will be the assholes who kill their employees and co-workers. Legislating sick time off, like every other developed country in the world and many that aren't, is what we really need to do. Along with healthcare for everyone. But it all starts by not accepting the assholes at the office trying to kill you as normal.

Filed under "People I would like to slap, except it involves touching them." Yeah. But in order to enforce that, we need different sick leave and health care policies and ...stuff. And that's very much a world I would like to see born of this mess, like a Phoenix rising from the ashes.

guscost 7y ago
That’s really the only hope I’m clinging to at this point, that over the next hundred-plus years the cultural changes might be worth all the damage.
- DoreenMichele 7y ago
  Let's shoot for a five year time frame for some major cultural changes and I'm in. Let's start on fostering them today. If we jump on it, we could flatten the curve with less economic pain this very year.
  - guscost 7y ago
    That ship may have sailed, unfortunately.
    - DoreenMichele 7y ago
      Let's build another.

dmode 7y ago

I always wondered about this. For COVID, the recommendation is that you have to be symptom free for 14 days before you are considered not contagious. Adding another 7-10 days of actual disease, you will be asking people to take 21-24 days off for a disease ? That is simply not accepted in American corporate culture, where many mothers return to work 2 weeks after giving birth

guscost 7y ago
Realistically, I mean symptomatic (coughing and sneezing). It’s not perfect but people are typically most contagious while they have symptoms. Plus, when you don’t need bed rest, you can still do any work that can reasonably be done from a remote location. Most companies haven’t done much to push that boundary in the past, and that’s a good idea, but it’s not a complete solution by any means.
- dmode 7y ago
  Are there any studies that prove that asymptomatic people are less contagious ?
mnm1 7y ago
Then we need to start accepting it. Those that don't will be the assholes who kill their employees and co-workers. Legislating sick time off, like every other developed country in the world and many that aren't, is what we really need to do. Along with healthcare for everyone. But it all starts by not accepting the assholes at the office trying to kill you as normal.