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The only 5G campaign I can see are the flood of articles over alleged 5G-Corona conspiracies. Those however are not popular even in "dirty" corners on the inte

by s9w 7y ago

The only 5G campaign I can see are the flood of articles over alleged 5G-Corona conspiracies. Those however are not popular even in "dirty" corners on the internet and if so mostly for fun. It's like flat earth.. it's fun to see people embarrass themselves on Twitter when they tout their superior intelligence because they don't fall for that. There are however concerns about 5G itself, without corona. I haven't really dived into the matter but it passes at least a cursory smell test, see for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22317998 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22317998

vincnetas 7y ago
Well, im probably living in really "dirty" corners of internet, as i see constant stream of "Burn all 5G towers because they cause corona" in all "Eco" "spiritual" "nature" facebook groups. Im not saying anything about 5G safety here, just saying that this "5G + corona" conspiracy is really getting traction.
- s9w 7y ago
  Fair enough, I don't know what's on FB etc. I meant more like conspiracy subreddits, 4chan and so on.
  - Jonnax 7y ago
    4 Chan and Reddit aren't the real world. Internet users put way too much stock in their societal impact. Facebook and group messaging apps are how a lot of people communicate.
    - s9w 7y ago
      Right! But I specifically wrote dirty corners, which fits well for those sites and less for FB.
    - pjc50 7y ago
      But there's no hard boundary. 4Chan is the viral breeding ground, occasionally some particularly well-developed memetic pathogen is weaponised onto Facebook or Whatsapp where it spreads among a non-immune population.
- im3w1l 7y ago
  Are the posters real people or bots, as far as you can tell?
  - vincnetas 7y ago
    Most posters look like real people. But real like people from troll factories. They comment in natural language (my native), respond to questions, but you can tell that their profiles are specific for that single purpose. Profile names look like read but most likely are not (John Smith for EN equivalent). They have no real posting history, etc...
new2628 7y ago
Yes, the most plausible scenario to me seems that these crazy "5G conspiracies" are peddled in the mainstream in order to discredit legitimate and well-founded concerns over 5G.
Nursie 7y ago
> Those however are not popular even in "dirty" corners on the internet and if so mostly for fun Yeah, totally just for fun. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/06/at-least-20-uk-phone-masts-vandalised-over-false-5g-coronavirus-claims https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/06/at-least-...
diegoperini 7y ago
My uncle from Milan, Italy forwarded a "news" article about it after he and his family recovered from the disease. They are angry (due to ignorance) and I'm afraid it is not possible for them to think logically after suffering like that for a month. It's not fun, I wish it were. Fake news are not fake if you don't suspect that they are. Let's do our part as technologically literate people and keep our families sane as much as we can.
grey-area 7y ago
3 phone masts have been attacked. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/04/uk-phone-masts-attacked-amid-5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/04/uk-phone-mas... Re 5G itself, the link you posted is debunked in the first reply. There are no credible concerns related to 5G
- s9w 7y ago
  Eh not the image with the studies. Again I really don't know much, but I know enough that it's not only about the ionization that "5G is save" people always make it about. Also there was one big pro-5G article here on HN a couple of months ago and that was such a blatant hitjob that ever since I've been weary.

by s9w 7y ago

vincnetas 7y ago

Well, im probably living in really "dirty" corners of internet, as i see constant stream of "Burn all 5G towers because they cause corona" in all "Eco" "spiritual" "nature" facebook groups. Im not saying anything about 5G safety here, just saying that this "5G + corona" conspiracy is really getting traction.

s9w 7y ago
Fair enough, I don't know what's on FB etc. I meant more like conspiracy subreddits, 4chan and so on.
- Jonnax 7y ago
  4 Chan and Reddit aren't the real world. Internet users put way too much stock in their societal impact. Facebook and group messaging apps are how a lot of people communicate.
  - s9w 7y ago
    Right! But I specifically wrote dirty corners, which fits well for those sites and less for FB.
  - pjc50 7y ago
    But there's no hard boundary. 4Chan is the viral breeding ground, occasionally some particularly well-developed memetic pathogen is weaponised onto Facebook or Whatsapp where it spreads among a non-immune population.
im3w1l 7y ago
Are the posters real people or bots, as far as you can tell?
- vincnetas 7y ago
  Most posters look like real people. But real like people from troll factories. They comment in natural language (my native), respond to questions, but you can tell that their profiles are specific for that single purpose. Profile names look like read but most likely are not (John Smith for EN equivalent). They have no real posting history, etc...

new2628 7y ago

Yes, the most plausible scenario to me seems that these crazy "5G conspiracies" are peddled in the mainstream in order to discredit legitimate and well-founded concerns over 5G.

Nursie 7y ago

> Those however are not popular even in "dirty" corners on the internet and if so mostly for fun Yeah, totally just for fun. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/06/at-least-20-uk-phone-masts-vandalised-over-false-5g-coronavirus-claims https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/06/at-least-...

diegoperini 7y ago

My uncle from Milan, Italy forwarded a "news" article about it after he and his family recovered from the disease. They are angry (due to ignorance) and I'm afraid it is not possible for them to think logically after suffering like that for a month. It's not fun, I wish it were. Fake news are not fake if you don't suspect that they are. Let's do our part as technologically literate people and keep our families sane as much as we can.

grey-area 7y ago

3 phone masts have been attacked. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/04/uk-phone-masts-attacked-amid-5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/04/uk-phone-mas... Re 5G itself, the link you posted is debunked in the first reply. There are no credible concerns related to 5G

s9w 7y ago
Eh not the image with the studies. Again I really don't know much, but I know enough that it's not only about the ionization that "5G is save" people always make it about. Also there was one big pro-5G article here on HN a couple of months ago and that was such a blatant hitjob that ever since I've been weary.