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Since Troy commands a lot of attention, he would do well to reference the legitimate controversy over adjacent-channel interference among some 5G bands and weat

Since Troy commands a lot of attention, he would do well to reference the legitimate controversy over adjacent-channel interference among some 5G bands and weather radar. The weather radar is sampling a physical phenomenon and cannot be 'moved' to another band. I haven't seen the 5G hoax promotions, only the legitimate journalism articles describing the fallout. I presume that none of the hoaxers actually reference the weather radar issue? Let's hope it stays that way because it's much harder to dismiss it all as a hoax if they mix in real truth with all the other bogus stuff.

yakshaving_jgt 7y ago
> I presume that none of the hoaxers actually reference the weather radar issue? I have never seen them do this, and I think it's unlikely they will do enough research on 5G (despite telling everyone else to "do the research") to learn about this. > Let's hope it stays that way because it's much harder to dismiss it all as a hoax if they mix in real truth with all the other bogus stuff. I'd say they already do this, but I'm not sure they do, and I'm not sure they need to. Conspiracy theorists don't rely on facts to bolster their narrative; they rely on things that sound like facts.
Nursie 7y ago
I've not seen anything hoax-y that even mentions weather radar. It all seems to be centred around misunderstandings of field strengths, inverse square laws etc and the usual overreaction to anything poorly understood and new. If they mix up weather radar in there I can only imagine the theories about government mind control that will come next.
avip 7y ago
Author repeatedly emphasizes this post is not about 5G, it's about fake news campaigns. Possibly could have used a less controversial example.
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cogman10 7y ago
Honestly, I think it is an overblown problem. (IIRC, the band in question was something like 22GHz) Those high frequency bands are going to be reserved for high population areas. Their entire purpose is to avoid crosstalk by using signals with low penetration. So, the expectation is that those higher frequencies be used for things like low power micro cell towers in buildings, or downtown city streets. That means the actual disruption, if it occurs, will only be over the high population areas of cities. Not generally wherever coverage occurs.
pjc50 7y ago
The defining characteristic of a successful conspiracy theory seems to be that it's "exactly wrong"; if there are real downsides to a thing, they aren't mentioned, and fictional ones bandied about instead. Or US government conspiracies: the more well-documented something is, the less it's talked about. Nobody bothers with Iran-Contra conspiracy theories, or even to talk about it any more : there was genuinely a criminal conspiracy, those responsible for that particular bit of treason were indicted, pardoned, and allowed to return to normal politics.

yakshaving_jgt 7y ago

> I presume that none of the hoaxers actually reference the weather radar issue? I have never seen them do this, and I think it's unlikely they will do enough research on 5G (despite telling everyone else to "do the research") to learn about this. > Let's hope it stays that way because it's much harder to dismiss it all as a hoax if they mix in real truth with all the other bogus stuff. I'd say they already do this, but I'm not sure they do, and I'm not sure they need to. Conspiracy theorists don't rely on facts to bolster their narrative; they rely on things that sound like facts.

Nursie 7y ago

I've not seen anything hoax-y that even mentions weather radar. It all seems to be centred around misunderstandings of field strengths, inverse square laws etc and the usual overreaction to anything poorly understood and new. If they mix up weather radar in there I can only imagine the theories about government mind control that will come next.

avip 7y ago

Author repeatedly emphasizes this post is not about 5G, it's about fake news campaigns. Possibly could have used a less controversial example.

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cogman10 7y ago

Honestly, I think it is an overblown problem. (IIRC, the band in question was something like 22GHz) Those high frequency bands are going to be reserved for high population areas. Their entire purpose is to avoid crosstalk by using signals with low penetration. So, the expectation is that those higher frequencies be used for things like low power micro cell towers in buildings, or downtown city streets. That means the actual disruption, if it occurs, will only be over the high population areas of cities. Not generally wherever coverage occurs.

pjc50 7y ago

The defining characteristic of a successful conspiracy theory seems to be that it's "exactly wrong"; if there are real downsides to a thing, they aren't mentioned, and fictional ones bandied about instead. Or US government conspiracies: the more well-documented something is, the less it's talked about. Nobody bothers with Iran-Contra conspiracy theories, or even to talk about it any more : there was genuinely a criminal conspiracy, those responsible for that particular bit of treason were indicted, pardoned, and allowed to return to normal politics.