A: "there's a good debate to be had about the role of justice system, should it seek to rehabilitate or punish?" B: "no, there's zero debate to be had because

A: "there's a good debate to be had about the role of justice system, should it seek to rehabilitate or punish?" B: "no, there's zero debate to be had because this one judge was caught taking bribes" One is a question about purpose and design, the other is a bug in the implementation.