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The worst part about hiring is once you're into the "elite circles" it becomes less work. Work for a FAANG? Getting a much becomes far easier and sometimes with

The worst part about hiring is once you're into the "elite circles" it becomes less work. Work for a FAANG? Getting a much becomes far easier and sometimes with less difficult questions. Whether you agree with the IQ test or not, it's not even a level playing field or merit based. It's about an elite club keeping things elite. Half the engineers working for FB, Google etc would not get hired today. Yet they still ask questions that they would not be able to answer as a form of gate keeping.

tictoc 7y ago
If they prepared, why wouldn't they be hired? Unless there is rampant ageism.
mwerty 7y ago
>Half the engineers working for FB, Google etc would not get hired today. I thought people jump around a lot these days.
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
  That doesn’t invalidate the idea that half, or some other portion, don’t.
  - mwerty 7y ago
    don’t =/= can’t.
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  Good people may. But if you work at FB or Google, and you realize that you're less talented than many of the others there, but they're willing to keep paying you FB or Google salaries... you probably don't leave.
asveikau 7y ago
> Half the engineers working for FB, Google etc would not get hired today. I think this is actually getting at why people ignore work history and what projects a candidate was involved in. When you get into these places you realize how little that name brand means. There are a lot of not particularly bright people at those places. Or more charitably, maybe bright people but not particularly skilled at software engineering, for some definition thereof. Sometimes those people can attach themselves to a well known project name. But what did they do for that project? Were they constructive or not? You can't really tell based on their word alone. Maybe they can charm their way out of that discussion. It's also not unheard of that they could be taking some credit from peers. So people come up with the quizzes and IQ tests, however flawed, as a way to "verify".

tictoc 7y ago

If they prepared, why wouldn't they be hired? Unless there is rampant ageism.

mwerty 7y ago

>Half the engineers working for FB, Google etc would not get hired today. I thought people jump around a lot these days.

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
That doesn’t invalidate the idea that half, or some other portion, don’t.
- mwerty 7y ago
  don’t =/= can’t.
AnimalMuppet 7y ago
Good people may. But if you work at FB or Google, and you realize that you're less talented than many of the others there, but they're willing to keep paying you FB or Google salaries... you probably don't leave.

asveikau 7y ago

> Half the engineers working for FB, Google etc would not get hired today. I think this is actually getting at why people ignore work history and what projects a candidate was involved in. When you get into these places you realize how little that name brand means. There are a lot of not particularly bright people at those places. Or more charitably, maybe bright people but not particularly skilled at software engineering, for some definition thereof. Sometimes those people can attach themselves to a well known project name. But what did they do for that project? Were they constructive or not? You can't really tell based on their word alone. Maybe they can charm their way out of that discussion. It's also not unheard of that they could be taking some credit from peers. So people come up with the quizzes and IQ tests, however flawed, as a way to "verify".