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How a pandemic of this nature was not planned for, war gamed, and drilled until we could gain SOME intuition as to the optimal actions and effects countries sho

How a pandemic of this nature was not planned for, war gamed, and drilled until we could gain SOME intuition as to the optimal actions and effects countries should take to avoid economic meltdown while doing the vulnerable population right is beyond me. The U.N. was created to promulgate this kind of cooperation, and here it has utterly failed.

magicsmoke 7y ago
The UN was created so countries like the US and USSR could have a forum to talk with each other and avoid nuking the entire world. How well do you think the UN would have helped those two cold war superpowers coordinate on a global pandemic? What you're looking for is a world government, not an international forum.
- galacticaactual 7y ago
  One would surmise that when such a forum exists, it should be utilized to plan for global events that affect every country, regardless of what the original intentions were of setting it up.
  - magicsmoke 7y ago
    That assumes the countries of the world have enough common understanding and respect for each other to actually create and execute such a plan. They don't.
    - galacticaactual 7y ago
      One of the great things about HN is that ideas are put forth and discussed on how much better the world could be, not simply state how terrible it is.
- ip26 7y ago
  Or at least some kind of world health authority, e.g. a WHO with teeth. Don't have to have the whole world government part.
  - gruez 7y ago
    Given the baffling array of pro-china behavior by the WHO lately, I'm not so sure that's a good idea.
volume 7y ago
I think I get what you say because it's very chess-like. But IMHO reality is more poker-like. Or maybe I mischaracterize or miscategorize your ideas?
noway421 7y ago
All I hope for is that this going to serve as a cautionary tale in the future.
bohadi 7y ago
This scenario and similar are apparently wargamed, by some. In fact the prescience shown in link is uncanny, to what effect you may now guess. [0] https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/11/06/event-201-health-security/ https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/11/06/event-201-health-security/

magicsmoke 7y ago

The UN was created so countries like the US and USSR could have a forum to talk with each other and avoid nuking the entire world. How well do you think the UN would have helped those two cold war superpowers coordinate on a global pandemic? What you're looking for is a world government, not an international forum.

galacticaactual 7y ago
One would surmise that when such a forum exists, it should be utilized to plan for global events that affect every country, regardless of what the original intentions were of setting it up.
- magicsmoke 7y ago
  That assumes the countries of the world have enough common understanding and respect for each other to actually create and execute such a plan. They don't.
  - galacticaactual 7y ago
    One of the great things about HN is that ideas are put forth and discussed on how much better the world could be, not simply state how terrible it is.
ip26 7y ago
Or at least some kind of world health authority, e.g. a WHO with teeth. Don't have to have the whole world government part.
- gruez 7y ago
  Given the baffling array of pro-china behavior by the WHO lately, I'm not so sure that's a good idea.

volume 7y ago

I think I get what you say because it's very chess-like. But IMHO reality is more poker-like. Or maybe I mischaracterize or miscategorize your ideas?

noway421 7y ago

All I hope for is that this going to serve as a cautionary tale in the future.

bohadi 7y ago

This scenario and similar are apparently wargamed, by some. In fact the prescience shown in link is uncanny, to what effect you may now guess. [0] https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/11/06/event-201-health-security/ https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/11/06/event-201-health-security/