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With over 80% NYC death rate some doctors moving away from ventilator treatment

• maallooc 7y ago
  But what should they do? Without vents, people suffocate to death.
  • jv22222 7y ago
    I heard of a few different options one of which is injecting/transfusing oxygen directly into the blood somehow. I hope someone knows more about this and can expand.
    • jv22222 7y ago
      No Lungs Required: Injected Oxygen to Keep Patients Alive https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a7833/no-lungs-required-injected-oxygen-to-keep-patients-alive-10087551/ https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a7833/no-lun...
    • jv22222 7y ago
      Non invasive ventilation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g9e6YLBAvQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g9e6YLBAvQ
  • aaron695 7y ago
    The article gives you heaps of options - "But increasingly, physicians are trying other measures first. One is having patients lie in different positions — including on their stomachs ......" Or you let them suffocate to death. You are in a pandemic.
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• rasz 7y ago
  Not Einsteins 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result' comes to mind. "Italy Cremona https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfkbv_WQtn0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfkbv_WQtn0 Italy Bergamo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_suhYeWEcJg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_suhYeWEcJg Two hospitals, not a single patient survived ventilation/ecmo to date" - that was almost a month ago. Even Chinese sources in February put patients requiring ventilators at <50% chance of survival.