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> KGOY Really? I looked at the "Identity" section and sure, they just wrote out "lesbian transgender life" from Born This Way, but they also turned "find a man

> KGOY Really? I looked at the "Identity" section and sure, they just wrote out "lesbian transgender life" from Born This Way, but they also turned "find a man" into "find the one" and do similar things for "woman"... You can say many things about these replacements, but the one I'm not sure about is that the replacement is in the service of making kids get older, younger. It seems to me just like they just want to make all that into something anodyne, which if anything is the anti-KGOY... unless the alternative is neither Kidz Bop nor the original music, but instead, something more like Raffi? I'm not sure how realistic that is, though.

burkaman 7y ago
Reading the study they cite (https://urj.uccs.edu/index.php/urj/article/view/266 https://urj.uccs.edu/index.php/urj/article/view/266), it's not that the replacements have an agenda, it's that replacing a few lyrics doesn't really cover up the original intent of a song, and a lot of the songs they cover have non-kid-friendly themes. Another major complaint is the music videos tend to feature kids having fun by dancing around a big house with fancy clothes and expensive stuff, which romanticizes wealth and promotes consumerism. Lyrics romanticizing wealth like "can't you taste this gold" tend not to be censored. The basic idea is that playing the Kidz Bop version of a Flo Rida song for your kid is similar to showing them the airplane-censored version of Pulp Fiction. If they're too young for the real thing, they're probably too young for the censored version.
- welliman 7y ago
  That study looks like it was done by an undergrad and isn't peer reviewed. It is interesting, but probably should be taken with a grain of salt.
  - Klinky 7y ago
    So, it's basically the Kidz Bop version of properly peer-reviewed study?
    - welliman 7y ago
      Not really. The research seems to be relatively novel, not a watered down version of a different study being repeated by children as your comment would suggest. My point was that the research just wasn't overly prestigious.
      - Igelau 7y ago
        By trimming out novelty and leaving only prestige, we are left with the Kidz Bop version of knowledge.
- lonelappde 7y ago
  Right Kidz Bop Agenda is the opposite of KGOY, obviously, that's the whole reason it exists, but the researcher argues the task is doomed to failure. Also, As bad as wealth and consumerism are, they are just as bad for kids as adults.

burkaman 7y ago

Reading the study they cite (https://urj.uccs.edu/index.php/urj/article/view/266 https://urj.uccs.edu/index.php/urj/article/view/266), it's not that the replacements have an agenda, it's that replacing a few lyrics doesn't really cover up the original intent of a song, and a lot of the songs they cover have non-kid-friendly themes. Another major complaint is the music videos tend to feature kids having fun by dancing around a big house with fancy clothes and expensive stuff, which romanticizes wealth and promotes consumerism. Lyrics romanticizing wealth like "can't you taste this gold" tend not to be censored. The basic idea is that playing the Kidz Bop version of a Flo Rida song for your kid is similar to showing them the airplane-censored version of Pulp Fiction. If they're too young for the real thing, they're probably too young for the censored version.

welliman 7y ago
That study looks like it was done by an undergrad and isn't peer reviewed. It is interesting, but probably should be taken with a grain of salt.
- Klinky 7y ago
  So, it's basically the Kidz Bop version of properly peer-reviewed study?
  - welliman 7y ago
    Not really. The research seems to be relatively novel, not a watered down version of a different study being repeated by children as your comment would suggest. My point was that the research just wasn't overly prestigious.
    - Igelau 7y ago
      By trimming out novelty and leaving only prestige, we are left with the Kidz Bop version of knowledge.
lonelappde 7y ago
Right Kidz Bop Agenda is the opposite of KGOY, obviously, that's the whole reason it exists, but the researcher argues the task is doomed to failure. Also, As bad as wealth and consumerism are, they are just as bad for kids as adults.