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Edit: why is this being downvoted? My point was that even the things listed as recent successes are not especially recent. —————————- Flights is from 2011, ni

by graeme 7y ago

Edit: why is this being downvoted? My point was that even the things listed as recent successes are not especially recent. —————————- Flights is from 2011, nine years ago. And they bought the logic at the core of it from ITA. Google drive is a genuine success, but from 2012, eight years ago. Even hangouts, which is a failure, is from 2013. What became Tensorflow appears to have begun seeing internal use in 2009-11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Flights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Flights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Drive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Drive

mav3rick 7y ago
Discounting tensorflow is such a ridiculous argument. All of these products were used internally in some way or form before released outside. You will find some reason or the other to not count successes.
- graeme 7y ago
  I’m not discounting it. My point is that it doesn’t seem especially recent. Even by official public release it’s almost five years old. The OP was arguing that google had had several recent successes, but their list tends to be 5+ years old. The point is that such a list is not especially convincing. I should note that my point in mentioning the early origins of tensorflow was that google had a reputation for being more innovative in those years. So it is also meaningful that Tensorflow’s origins are from that period. Google’s modern reputation is introducing a new chat app each year and deprecating the old one.
  - mav3rick 7y ago
    That's the reputation HN wants to impose. Especially the people who couldn't clear the interviews.
    - graeme 7y ago
      Do you have any recent successful products you can mention? I’m open to there being some. I think you’re adding stuff into my comment that’s not there. My point was that nothing on the list was from newer than 2015. Except maybe google photos, but that came out of Picasa/Google+

by graeme 7y ago

mav3rick 7y ago

Discounting tensorflow is such a ridiculous argument. All of these products were used internally in some way or form before released outside. You will find some reason or the other to not count successes.

graeme 7y ago
I’m not discounting it. My point is that it doesn’t seem especially recent. Even by official public release it’s almost five years old. The OP was arguing that google had had several recent successes, but their list tends to be 5+ years old. The point is that such a list is not especially convincing. I should note that my point in mentioning the early origins of tensorflow was that google had a reputation for being more innovative in those years. So it is also meaningful that Tensorflow’s origins are from that period. Google’s modern reputation is introducing a new chat app each year and deprecating the old one.
- mav3rick 7y ago
  That's the reputation HN wants to impose. Especially the people who couldn't clear the interviews.
  - graeme 7y ago
    Do you have any recent successful products you can mention? I’m open to there being some. I think you’re adding stuff into my comment that’s not there. My point was that nothing on the list was from newer than 2015. Except maybe google photos, but that came out of Picasa/Google+