> But I can tell you how a country gets out of police state. The point is to not get into a police state in the first state. You get into police state by being

> But I can tell you how a country gets out of police state. The point is to not get into a police state in the first state. You get into police state by being compliant and being manipulated by fear. Slowly but surely, they take all your rights and condition you to slavishly obey. > and saying "I don't know them, but they are my brothers. If you want to shoot them, you will have to shoot me first." That's most definitely not how police states end. Police states would shoot you or take you away and make you disappear. Maybe you weren't in a police state to begin with? > In other words, if your "police state behavior" is telling people to go home during an ongoing pandemic, it belongs to "not even wrong" category. See, you are completely missing the point. But then again, it might be because you were raised in a police state and have been conditioned to be obedient and subservient. It's hard to shake off a lifetime of bondage. > But when residents of a major city (SF) have to avoid used needles on the street, it seems pretty clear to me that there aren't enough police to serve these people. It has nothing to do with police pay. It has to do with laws/rights. Are you seriously contending that SF of all places is underfunding their cops? Also, SF drug problem is a societal problem not a police problem. But once again, those controlled by fear always to look the police to fix all their problems and hence you end up with a police state. Ultimately, people's mindset are to blame for police states. People naively and foolishly allow police states.