>There are a lot of situations where I would prefer “mostly” secure communication, rather than no communication at all. We are not talking about "mostly" here

>There are a lot of situations where I would prefer “mostly” secure communication, rather than no communication at all. We are not talking about "mostly" here for the video conference case. We are talking about a situation where most providers have access to the data of their users without very much work. If you are actually willing to confirm the identity of your correspondent using verified binaries you can get end to end protected communications ... if someone claims that they have something easier then they are lying. You can't beat the law of logic. The fact that anyone is even suggesting that Zoom could of been e2ee in any way that mattered is kind of depressing. I think we have some education to do. Security audits are pointless unless you can confirm that the software that was audited is the software actually running on your device.