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Googlers don't use Zoom for company work. It was banned as in it can no longer be installed on corp laptops.
by kinkrtyavimoodh 7y ago
Googlers don't use Zoom for company work.
It was banned as in it can no longer be installed on corp laptops.
- mulmen 7y agoRight but it's also astonishing that was allowed before. If it's not needed for work why would it be installed? Why would any non-work software be allowed on corp laptops?
- shaftway 7y agoBecause sometimes there are contractors, or consultants, or vendors, or partners you work with that for one reason or another can't use internal options.
- Jare 7y agoSpotify is not negotiable tbh.
- rafi_kamal 7y agoGoogle allows personal software to be installed in a corp laptop, subject to restrictions and limitations like this. It's not encouraged, though, and if something happens because you installed a third party software then it's your responsibility.
- hellomyguys 7y agoDon't think it's too uncommon to be able to install Spotify on a work computer.
- x0x0 7y agoWe used Zoom during sales into Google. Therefore, our prospect had to install Zoom.
- jedieaston 7y agoBecause then you don't impede people who might need a new widget installed because everyone and their mother in IT needs to try it and test it before you can use it. Especially at Google scale, where the BeyondCorp system described in their papers could automatically see when an endpoint was doing something naughty, block the user from accessing corporate resources, and give the user information on how to fix it, instead of blocking them from installing anything (even if what they want is perfectly harmless).
- cameronbrown 7y agoGenerally you can install anything, but the responsibility is on you though. It's not uncommon to see people with Steam, Spotify or other personal software too.
- rossjudson 7y agoI am pretty sure Steam gets uninstalled automatically within a day or two if it shows up on a corp laptop. I have no idea how I know this. ;)
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- tbodt 7y agoI just checked and Steam is still on my corp laptop
- dragonwriter 7y agoBecause unlike most large workplaces that inhibit innovation and productivity and infantilize staff with an “anything not specifically permitted is prohibited” rule which also creates continuous work for a review and approval bureaucracy and guarantees that toolsets are outdated and improvements difficult to discover, Google apparently has an “everything not specifically prohibited is allowed” policy.
- dodobirdlord 7y agoThere's a third "use at your own risk" option between the two extremes. Sure, install your favorite terminal emulator, but if it steals your production credentials you may get fired...
- jabroni_salad 7y agoWith videoconferencing you aren't always in control of it, especially if you interface with other companies. I have webex, zoom, bluejeans, teams, and skype4business on my laptop because I am a consultant and have to use whatever my client is using. There's also that zoom free tier creating a 'Shadow IT' situation. Slack used this to great effect and everybody on HN was very impressed. It should be no surprise that Zoom is finding its way onto random employee laptops, that is something tech firms are trying to do on purpose now.
- kinkrtyavimoodh 7y agoGoogle has always had the company culture of not infantilizing their employees and broadly trusting them to do the right thing. This reflects in many many policies and general 'culture'. You can install software on the laptop as long as you have the right license for it, and there are centralized tools to check for potentially dangerous binaries and things like that.