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their comment was in no way "nasty", it's a bit of a sideways comment to imply so, and you are completely ignoring the real motivation behind something like thi
by nikofeyn 7y ago
their comment was in no way "nasty", it's a bit of a sideways comment to imply so, and you are completely ignoring the real motivation behind something like this and the problems with company's complaints on having a supposed shortage of STEM candidates.
the whole STEM "crisis" is born out of companies wanting people already trained to do the job they want them to do rather than training them. and more specifically, companies want software engineers already trained specifically how they want.
movements like this have had a detrimental effect on other roles that society needs. so yes, someone is offering free educational resources, but that someone is a massive multinational corporation whose scale drives them to seek benefits from society, and not the other way around. and amazon's size and influence yields them a lot of power. there is also a larger societal problem in that we cannot solve humanity's problems through technology alone, which STEM efforts completely ignore.
- chrisseaton 7y ago> their comment was in no way "nasty" 'Grooming' implies it's comparable to sexually coercing minors.
- stagger87 7y agoYes, that is one definition. There are others.
- nikofeyn 7y agono it doesn't, especially in this context. what are you talking about?
- chrisseaton 7y agohttps://www.nspcc.org.uk/what-is-child-abuse/types-of-abuse/grooming/#what-is https://www.nspcc.org.uk/what-is-child-abuse/types-of-abuse/... https://www.survivorsuk.org/question/grooming/ https://www.survivorsuk.org/question/grooming/
- lghh 7y agoAgile stories are in a really weird spot lexically then.
- redis_mlc 7y agoFYI: That's a common meaning in the UK, not USA. HN is a US site.
- ptudan 7y agoIt just means to prepare. Someone decided to use the word to mean "to prepare: minors for sex when they are older". Obviously this second definition came later.
- chrisseaton 7y agoPerhaps best not to use this word at all to describe what someone is doing since it has such an extreme alternate meaning?
- barbecue_sauce 7y agoThat’s a rare and contextual meaning. You also groom snow to make it suitable to ski on.
- lonelappde 7y agoEvery noun and every verb is a euphemism for sex. The solution is to drop the taboo around sex talk, not eviscerate the language.
- loco5niner 6y agoBad idea. Where do we stop? We will very quickly run low on words.
- tomc1985 7y agoOr a expert training his protege. Or a leader preparing his successor. Or a mother cleaning up her child. Or a cat licking its butt.
- rchaud 7y agoIf it's used in a story about grooming minors for sex, then yes. If it's used in the sense of grooming someone for a leadership role then no. Most readers are aware that words have multiple connotations, and use the surrounding context to understand what is meant.
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- percentcer 7y ago"Grooming" is frequently used to describe preparing someone for a promotion or otherwise high-profile position (e.g. "Groomed for leadership"). Examples: https://www.google.com/search?q=wsj+%22groomed+for%22&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS835US835&oq=wsj+%22groomed+for%22&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.2151j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=wsj+%22groomed+for%22&rlz=1C...
- fenwick67 7y agoI used the word grooming because it implies a power imbalance, not because I wanted to compare child sexual abuse to sponsored education programs.
- ThrowawayR2 7y agoShould I then be worried about the "pet grooming service" van that I see in my neighborhood now and then? Seems improbable.
- loco5niner 6y agoNot really. Grooming is a term that can refer to many things. One of those is a bad thing. Doesn't mean we have to throw the word away.