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None of those things are helpful when it's a restrictive commercial endeavor. There are many things that are technically very fancy but simply unreachable by mo

None of those things are helpful when it's a restrictive commercial endeavor. There are many things that are technically very fancy but simply unreachable by most people due to administrative restrictions. Those restrictions are a far bigger barrier to usage and success than the technical capabilities, especially in a dynamic, fast-moving and interconnected world. I suppose that is also why this was posted here on HN: being tied to the grace of some commercial entity isn't exactly pleasurable.

djsumdog 7y ago
But there are high end applications where companies are willing to take that hit. OpenVMS is used in some nuclear power plants. When you have data coming in from tens or hundreds of thousands of sensors, and processing that data is vital to keep things from exploding, you want something that can process it all in real time and never crash. BASF's STOP is another example of a very specific purpose operating system geared entirely around security.
- runnerup 7y ago
  I can't find any info on BASF's STOP; can you link me to something relevant? It's up my alley personally, would love to learn more.
  - djsumdog 7y ago
    There's not much info out there publicly. Here's what I found: https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/stop-os https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/stop-os https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTS-400 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTS-400
- oneplane 7y ago
  Yes, but that doesn't have much to do with hobbyist or student licensing, does it. If you are an energy company you probably have some sub-sub-sub budget line somewhere for 'computer license' stuff.
- generatorguy 7y ago
  Are you familiar with the instrumentation on nuclear plants? I can’t imagine there are high tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of variables let alone sensors to be monitored. On the hydro plants I work on there are about 1000 variables per turbine generator unit and another 1000 for the substation and river system that are centrally recorded.

djsumdog 7y ago

But there are high end applications where companies are willing to take that hit. OpenVMS is used in some nuclear power plants. When you have data coming in from tens or hundreds of thousands of sensors, and processing that data is vital to keep things from exploding, you want something that can process it all in real time and never crash. BASF's STOP is another example of a very specific purpose operating system geared entirely around security.

runnerup 7y ago
I can't find any info on BASF's STOP; can you link me to something relevant? It's up my alley personally, would love to learn more.
- djsumdog 7y ago
  There's not much info out there publicly. Here's what I found: https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/stop-os https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/stop-os https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTS-400 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTS-400
oneplane 7y ago
Yes, but that doesn't have much to do with hobbyist or student licensing, does it. If you are an energy company you probably have some sub-sub-sub budget line somewhere for 'computer license' stuff.
generatorguy 7y ago
Are you familiar with the instrumentation on nuclear plants? I can’t imagine there are high tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of variables let alone sensors to be monitored. On the hydro plants I work on there are about 1000 variables per turbine generator unit and another 1000 for the substation and river system that are centrally recorded.