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>The tragedy of this seems to be that we're running out of stuff for people to do. There is a lot to do for humans. Just look at the problems in any area of sc

>The tragedy of this seems to be that we're running out of stuff for people to do. There is a lot to do for humans. Just look at the problems in any area of science. Not all people are qualified to work there though. This is why instead of whining about disappearing of menial labor jobs, we should be working toward [what would be at least a start] making K16 a basic level of education instead of K12. A thousand year ago reading and writing would made one a basically educated person (for the rest of his/her 30 year long life). In 19th century K8 was enough (and the average lifespan ~45), in 20th for the most of the part - K12 (and the average lifespan is ~70 at the end of the century). The body of knowledge is growing, we live longer, so it is natural to learn more and apply the more advanced knowledge and skills for longer period of the active adult productive life.

rimantas 16y ago
Average lifespan was very scewed because of high children mortality. If you survivied first few years chabces were pretty good that you'd live longer than average life expectancy told.
nostrademons 16y ago
I'd fix K-12 before we make K-16 the default. You could easily learn fit the amount of material in a K-16 education into 12 years if those 12 years weren't just a matter of putting in time without any real focus on learning the material. Let's improve quality of education before increasing quantity.
- VladRussian 16y ago
  >You could easily learn fit the amount of material in a K-16 education into 12 years >Let's improve quality of education before increasing quantity. nice sound bites. Complete rubbish. The whole amount of K-12 material is comparable in size with amount of material consumed in just one, max 2, years of college. But it doesn't work in the opposite way. I graduated from a top math and physics high school where students were selected from half of the country. The amount of additional material what we were able to consume during the high school pales in comparison with amount of material we consumed later at the University. The brains is still not there at this age. Hormones already are :)

rimantas 16y ago

Average lifespan was very scewed because of high children mortality. If you survivied first few years chabces were pretty good that you'd live longer than average life expectancy told.

nostrademons 16y ago

I'd fix K-12 before we make K-16 the default. You could easily learn fit the amount of material in a K-16 education into 12 years if those 12 years weren't just a matter of putting in time without any real focus on learning the material. Let's improve quality of education before increasing quantity.

VladRussian 16y ago
>You could easily learn fit the amount of material in a K-16 education into 12 years >Let's improve quality of education before increasing quantity. nice sound bites. Complete rubbish. The whole amount of K-12 material is comparable in size with amount of material consumed in just one, max 2, years of college. But it doesn't work in the opposite way. I graduated from a top math and physics high school where students were selected from half of the country. The amount of additional material what we were able to consume during the high school pales in comparison with amount of material we consumed later at the University. The brains is still not there at this age. Hormones already are :)