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So the pay for musicians is exposure? Tired of these business models, just another tech organization taking advantage of desperate people.

kodo_beast 7y ago
indie game developers who make nothing starting out get a possibly decent catalog with low effort, so its not all bad.
- frafart 7y ago
  Yes, it's fantastic for indie game developers no doubt. After having a catalogue they can get a good paying job and build a career. Musicians, on the other hand, only get offered more exposure gigs.
  - patrickaljord 7y ago
    This is not an exposure gig. Some artists chose to publish their work as CC license (like some devs publish under open source licenses). This site allows them to upload these works, there are plenty of site that offer the same thing such as https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page I've published mine under CC here https://flickr.com/photos/patcito/with/84627477/ https://flickr.com/photos/patcito/with/84627477/
  - true_religion 7y ago
    So I know a few musicians who release for free. All of them have day jobs as software developers, designers, and one really cool guy who is a C level exec. If music is your career, sure you have to get good fast and sell at every opportunity. However don’t discount how good you can get just jamming out with friends for 30 something odd years.
danShumway 7y ago
This is just a repository for Creative Commons content, and it doesn't even appear to force the content to be CC, just royalty free. http://dig.ccmixter.org/licenses http://dig.ccmixter.org/licenses The business model here is a group of people have volunteered to maintain a shared opt-in repository and indexer so that musicians who want to release their content under a CC license can easily do so. There's no exploitation happening, unless you broadly consider Open licenses like CC or the GPL to be exploitation. And if you do have a problem with CC licenses in general, it's probably better to take that up with https://creativecommons.org/ https://creativecommons.org/
arsome 7y ago
Do you say the same about people who write open source software? This is basically open source music, CC licensed. Just like in the software world, sometimes experimentation and sharing takes priority, not always, but it still has its place.
wolco 7y ago
Some music isn't for sale. This is where you find that music. People who record music are not desperate. Those trying to be the next popstar might be. Doubt there is huge overlap between those groups. You are more likely to see those on tiktok.
tomc1985 7y ago
They put it up willingly. Why the hate on copyleft?

kodo_beast 7y ago

indie game developers who make nothing starting out get a possibly decent catalog with low effort, so its not all bad.

frafart 7y ago
Yes, it's fantastic for indie game developers no doubt. After having a catalogue they can get a good paying job and build a career. Musicians, on the other hand, only get offered more exposure gigs.
- patrickaljord 7y ago
  This is not an exposure gig. Some artists chose to publish their work as CC license (like some devs publish under open source licenses). This site allows them to upload these works, there are plenty of site that offer the same thing such as https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page I've published mine under CC here https://flickr.com/photos/patcito/with/84627477/ https://flickr.com/photos/patcito/with/84627477/
- true_religion 7y ago
  So I know a few musicians who release for free. All of them have day jobs as software developers, designers, and one really cool guy who is a C level exec. If music is your career, sure you have to get good fast and sell at every opportunity. However don’t discount how good you can get just jamming out with friends for 30 something odd years.

danShumway 7y ago

This is just a repository for Creative Commons content, and it doesn't even appear to force the content to be CC, just royalty free. http://dig.ccmixter.org/licenses http://dig.ccmixter.org/licenses The business model here is a group of people have volunteered to maintain a shared opt-in repository and indexer so that musicians who want to release their content under a CC license can easily do so. There's no exploitation happening, unless you broadly consider Open licenses like CC or the GPL to be exploitation. And if you do have a problem with CC licenses in general, it's probably better to take that up with https://creativecommons.org/ https://creativecommons.org/

arsome 7y ago

Do you say the same about people who write open source software? This is basically open source music, CC licensed. Just like in the software world, sometimes experimentation and sharing takes priority, not always, but it still has its place.

wolco 7y ago

Some music isn't for sale. This is where you find that music. People who record music are not desperate. Those trying to be the next popstar might be. Doubt there is huge overlap between those groups. You are more likely to see those on tiktok.

tomc1985 7y ago

They put it up willingly. Why the hate on copyleft?