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I think anything is unreasonable if it isn’t based on what we know or reasonably suspect today. Mark and gloves are fine but there are huge caveats. 3-6 aren’t

I think anything is unreasonable if it isn’t based on what we know or reasonably suspect today. Mark and gloves are fine but there are huge caveats. 3-6 aren’t based on what we know or reasonably expect today so I think they are unreasonable. Replace 3-6 with “wash hands and any grocery containers”.

jnbiche 7y ago
If 3-6 are totally unreasonable, then why are medical workers bothering with gowns? Why not just wear their normal coat or scrubs? I do question the effectiveness of spraying shoes with alcohol, but I personally try to maintain a barrier between what I wear to the grocery store, and what I wear inside in the house.
- DanBC 7y ago
  > why are medical workers bothering with gowns? Why not just wear their normal coat or scrubs? Most medical workers are not wearing gowns. For the ones who are they're also wearing masks and face shields and two pairs of gloves. There's a big difference between being a medical worker in a room with 12 people who have confirmed covid-19 infection who are unwell and probably coughing, and being a member of the public walking about outside.
  - jnbiche 7y ago
    1) I was specifically referring to medical professionals working with Covid-19 patients. I had assumed it would be obvious, since that's what we were discussing, but clearly that was a poor assumption. 2) That said, even if you're talking about all medical workers, I think you still may be wrong. All dentists that I know locally (2) are wearing gowns, and say their colleagues are, at least those who haven't closed down temporarily. And many other doctors and nurses who aren't working specifically with Covid-19 patients, but who still come into contact with them, are wearing isolation gowns. They're taking the same kind of universal precautions they do for HIV prevention, and assuming that any given patient may be carrying the disease. Given what we are learning about asymptomatic transmission, that's probably a wise approach. 3) Importantly, you appear to have missed the fact that I was making an analogy, not encouraging the general public to wear gowns (I'm not!). You write "There's a big difference between being a medical worker in a room with 12 people who have confirmed covid-19 infection who are unwell and probably coughing, and being a member of the public walking about outside." But that was not and has never been my argument. My argument was, a similar mechanism of action is in the effect of medical professionals wearing gowns, and of the general public washing clothes after being out in public among probably Covid-19 carriers. Clearly, doctors believe there's some kind of benefit to protecting your clothing from the SARS-CoV-2 virus, or they wouldn't bother wearing gowns in Covid-19 wards (and elsewhere, as mentioned above!). All that said, the most important thing to do is to social distance, and stay home unless you must go out. But lots of people have to go out, and for them, a mask is a very good idea, and CDC-recommended.
jetti 7y ago
I would argue the only thing that would be unreasonable is the shower. I have looked a few days ago to see how long SARS-CoV-2 can live on fabric and couldn't find a concrete answer, if there is new data on that I would love to be pointed to it since I want to make sure that my wife and I are as careful as can be.

jnbiche 7y ago

If 3-6 are totally unreasonable, then why are medical workers bothering with gowns? Why not just wear their normal coat or scrubs? I do question the effectiveness of spraying shoes with alcohol, but I personally try to maintain a barrier between what I wear to the grocery store, and what I wear inside in the house.

DanBC 7y ago
> why are medical workers bothering with gowns? Why not just wear their normal coat or scrubs? Most medical workers are not wearing gowns. For the ones who are they're also wearing masks and face shields and two pairs of gloves. There's a big difference between being a medical worker in a room with 12 people who have confirmed covid-19 infection who are unwell and probably coughing, and being a member of the public walking about outside.
- jnbiche 7y ago
  1) I was specifically referring to medical professionals working with Covid-19 patients. I had assumed it would be obvious, since that's what we were discussing, but clearly that was a poor assumption. 2) That said, even if you're talking about all medical workers, I think you still may be wrong. All dentists that I know locally (2) are wearing gowns, and say their colleagues are, at least those who haven't closed down temporarily. And many other doctors and nurses who aren't working specifically with Covid-19 patients, but who still come into contact with them, are wearing isolation gowns. They're taking the same kind of universal precautions they do for HIV prevention, and assuming that any given patient may be carrying the disease. Given what we are learning about asymptomatic transmission, that's probably a wise approach. 3) Importantly, you appear to have missed the fact that I was making an analogy, not encouraging the general public to wear gowns (I'm not!). You write "There's a big difference between being a medical worker in a room with 12 people who have confirmed covid-19 infection who are unwell and probably coughing, and being a member of the public walking about outside." But that was not and has never been my argument. My argument was, a similar mechanism of action is in the effect of medical professionals wearing gowns, and of the general public washing clothes after being out in public among probably Covid-19 carriers. Clearly, doctors believe there's some kind of benefit to protecting your clothing from the SARS-CoV-2 virus, or they wouldn't bother wearing gowns in Covid-19 wards (and elsewhere, as mentioned above!). All that said, the most important thing to do is to social distance, and stay home unless you must go out. But lots of people have to go out, and for them, a mask is a very good idea, and CDC-recommended.

jetti 7y ago

I would argue the only thing that would be unreasonable is the shower. I have looked a few days ago to see how long SARS-CoV-2 can live on fabric and couldn't find a concrete answer, if there is new data on that I would love to be pointed to it since I want to make sure that my wife and I are as careful as can be.