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> I'd rather have freedom of speech even if it means tons of misinformation out there. I think this is a false dichotomy. There is a difference between freedo
by mikekchar 7y ago
> I'd rather have freedom of speech even if it means tons of misinformation out there.
I think this is a false dichotomy. There is a difference between freedom of speech and freedom to use the most popular communication service. Just because a communication service is popular, does not automatically mean that everyone should get equal access. Freedom of speech means that you are free to say what you want. You are free to publish what you want. It does not mean that the most popular distributors of information a forced to carry your message.
Going back in time, it means that you are free to write a book. You are free to print the book. You are free to distribute the book. You are not free to demand that the most popular bookstore must carry your book. Neither does it mean that the most popular newspaper must publish serialised versions of your book.
It also doesn't mean that you must have equal access to the most cost effective means of distributing your message. Even though the news paper (in times gone by) reached every house and syndicated stories could travel the world incredibly efficiently, it doesn't mean that they are forced to syndicate your story. They have a choice. It may be true that you can't afford to send information to practically everybody in the world like the wire services can do, but that's just too bad.
These days because communications are so cheap to be practically free, people often thing that they should be entitled to the best delivery mechanism possible and that everything else should be considered censorship. A private entity choosing not to spread your message is not censorship. It's a choice and it's a choice that every private entity should be able to have.
I'd rather have the freedom to choose even if it means that tons of people do not have access to the most popular and efficient means of spreading their message.
Of course, if there are groups of people colluding to block your message, then that might be a form of censorship. If you have Youtube making deals with ISPs to make sure that you can't host your own content, etc, then I think that's a problem. That's the kind of action that only governments should be able to take (and with the correct oversight). But people and corporations should have the right to choose what business they want to engage in unless it impinges on special categories that we have already marked for protection (and insane consipracy theories are not marked for such protection).
- thebean11 7y agoI don't think comparing facebook or youtube to "the most popular bookstore" is fair, books (and movies, TV, magazines etc) are just not in the same category as facebook or twitter. I don't think facebook and twitter can be compared to something like an ISP, the truth is somewhere in the middle. I personally find it concerning that more and more everyday human communication is moving to platforms that can arbitrarily ban you from communicating.
- mikekchar 7y agoIt's fair if you want to argue that posting Youtube videos is an essential service. I would argue pretty strenuously that it is not. I might even be convinced that facebook or twitter might fall into that category (but then I would probably argue that the service would need to be forcibly federated in that case). Posting a video on Youtube is publishing, not personal communication. Forcing publishers to show your message to the world is not free speech -- even if they are the only popular publisher on the planet.
- julybuffalo 7y agoI appreciate everyone using the word "publisher" to describe YouTube. Platforms only have legal protection from user content being their responsibility if they are not publishers. I would be happy for YouTube to lose their safe harbor protections if they continue to censor content.
- julybuffalo 7y agoShould Verizon be able to cancel your account because they don't like your phone conversations?
- odorousrex 7y agoFalse Equivalence. A phone conversation is between two parties only, not a broadcast to the widest possible audience.