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Do you know Trump voters? Your depiction of them seems extremely bigoted and does not reflect the reality I've experienced living in an overwhelming Republican

Do you know Trump voters? Your depiction of them seems extremely bigoted and does not reflect the reality I've experienced living in an overwhelming Republican state. Trump's approval rating has been increasing and his disapproval rating decreasing over the course of the Covid-19 pandemic, so your read on the situation does not seem to match reality. While I agree that the handling could be better, I don't think Trump looks that incompetent, especially when compared to other countries' leaders (most of Europe is doing about as badly as the US) and organizations like the CDC (masks don't work), the WHO (closing borders is racist), and the government of New York (encouraging people to go to the movies and restaurants in March). I think your view of Trump is preventing you from getting an accurate read on reality. FYI I'm not a Republican and did not vote for Trump.

bayesian_horse 7y ago
It has been well established by polling that single-issue voters favor Trump overwhelmingly. And when you ask them about Trumps' various scandals or the evidence of criminal activity, they claim to know nothing or blame Clinton and Obama. I've not seen intellectually sound defenses of Trumps behavior and conduct. Much of it is indefensible. In reality, most European countries are way ahead of the US on testing, and most have enacted social distancing way before the US. Even Italy is on track to managing Covid-19 better than the US, they are just a bit earlier on the curve, currently. None of the European leaders have downplayed the pandemic for so long or spread so much disinformation. Delayed action, no federal coordination, spreading lies - for me that's objective incompetence and not a matter of opinions. It sounds biased to say Trump is narcissistic and functionally illiterate and that he doesn't have a clue about most issues he is facing. It's also true, when you look at the data. Would it be more objective to ignore such data? My view of his supporters is giving them the benefit of the doubt. The single-issue effect is a much nicer explanation than saying they don't know enough about Trump, his corruption or contemporary issues. Or blaming them for being racist. Which many of them probably also are. A single-issue voter at least knows that he is picking evil when he thinks he is picking the "lesser" evil. A racist, or someone brainwashed by FOX news, does not know about Trumps criminal behavior, mental issues or his chronic lying.
rootusrootus 7y ago
> approval rating has been increasing FWIW, that is not holding true. He got an uptick in approval of 2-3% early on, but it has been slipping a bit since then, trending slowly back towards where it was previously. About 45% approval, about 50% disapproval, so he's still underwater.

bayesian_horse 7y ago

It has been well established by polling that single-issue voters favor Trump overwhelmingly. And when you ask them about Trumps' various scandals or the evidence of criminal activity, they claim to know nothing or blame Clinton and Obama. I've not seen intellectually sound defenses of Trumps behavior and conduct. Much of it is indefensible. In reality, most European countries are way ahead of the US on testing, and most have enacted social distancing way before the US. Even Italy is on track to managing Covid-19 better than the US, they are just a bit earlier on the curve, currently. None of the European leaders have downplayed the pandemic for so long or spread so much disinformation. Delayed action, no federal coordination, spreading lies - for me that's objective incompetence and not a matter of opinions. It sounds biased to say Trump is narcissistic and functionally illiterate and that he doesn't have a clue about most issues he is facing. It's also true, when you look at the data. Would it be more objective to ignore such data? My view of his supporters is giving them the benefit of the doubt. The single-issue effect is a much nicer explanation than saying they don't know enough about Trump, his corruption or contemporary issues. Or blaming them for being racist. Which many of them probably also are. A single-issue voter at least knows that he is picking evil when he thinks he is picking the "lesser" evil. A racist, or someone brainwashed by FOX news, does not know about Trumps criminal behavior, mental issues or his chronic lying.

rootusrootus 7y ago

> approval rating has been increasing FWIW, that is not holding true. He got an uptick in approval of 2-3% early on, but it has been slipping a bit since then, trending slowly back towards where it was previously. About 45% approval, about 50% disapproval, so he's still underwater.