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The 16 inch switched back to a scissor mechanism. I do like the butterfly keys though, it’s only the reliability issues that make them problematic for me. Unti

The 16 inch switched back to a scissor mechanism. I do like the butterfly keys though, it’s only the reliability issues that make them problematic for me. Until keys started being flaky I was perfectly happy with it.

andy_ppp 7y ago
Ah sorry my comment is ambiguous; I’m saying I 100% prefer butterfly keys over the new 16 inch keyboard. I’m sure I’ll get used to it though.
- samatman 7y ago
  You're not alone, I had a mostly-broken left command key for the better part of a year so I despise the butterfly keys. Nonetheless, when I switched to a 16 inch it felt mushy and weird, and that's with almost a decade using the previous scissor keyboards, which feel effectively identical. I got used to it pretty quick though, and you couldn't pay me to go back.
  - brodie 7y ago
    So you like the new one then? I ordered a maxed out MBA and am curious to try it out. I’ve only used the original design.
    - samatman 7y ago
      Yeah, literally everything that they changed is a strict improvement. UI wise the 'new' keyboard is identical to the pre-butterfly, which gives me some confidence that it will also have the absurd durability which MacBook keyboards historically have. I even suspect that the smaller keys, greater travel, and more space between each, has made me a bit more accurate and hence faster. No actual data to back that... My remaining gripe is the lack of haptic feedback on the touch bar. But I expect to get many years of use out of this computer with no complaints. The nice bonus is that the speakers are excellent. Like, shockingly good, I don't bother putting in earbuds for most video anymore.
- wlesieutre 7y ago
  Gotcha. I do like typing on the butterfly keyboard. It's just problematic that keys will randomly not respond or send multiple strokes, and can't be fixed short of taking the entire computer apart.
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smsx 7y ago
I believe he's contrasting his current 16" experience vs the older butterfly switches.

andy_ppp 7y ago

Ah sorry my comment is ambiguous; I’m saying I 100% prefer butterfly keys over the new 16 inch keyboard. I’m sure I’ll get used to it though.

samatman 7y ago
You're not alone, I had a mostly-broken left command key for the better part of a year so I despise the butterfly keys. Nonetheless, when I switched to a 16 inch it felt mushy and weird, and that's with almost a decade using the previous scissor keyboards, which feel effectively identical. I got used to it pretty quick though, and you couldn't pay me to go back.
- brodie 7y ago
  So you like the new one then? I ordered a maxed out MBA and am curious to try it out. I’ve only used the original design.
  - samatman 7y ago
    Yeah, literally everything that they changed is a strict improvement. UI wise the 'new' keyboard is identical to the pre-butterfly, which gives me some confidence that it will also have the absurd durability which MacBook keyboards historically have. I even suspect that the smaller keys, greater travel, and more space between each, has made me a bit more accurate and hence faster. No actual data to back that... My remaining gripe is the lack of haptic feedback on the touch bar. But I expect to get many years of use out of this computer with no complaints. The nice bonus is that the speakers are excellent. Like, shockingly good, I don't bother putting in earbuds for most video anymore.
wlesieutre 7y ago
Gotcha. I do like typing on the butterfly keyboard. It's just problematic that keys will randomly not respond or send multiple strokes, and can't be fixed short of taking the entire computer apart.
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smsx 7y ago

I believe he's contrasting his current 16" experience vs the older butterfly switches.